Stupidest question: "Why will rest of the world cooperate with Kerry?"

Look, Bush wants chaos in the middle east. He wants high oil prices. (Psst, take a look at Bush and Cheney's resume. How do they really make money? From high oil prices.)

The rest of the world knew that knew what Bush was trying to do when he invaded Iraq. He's trying to transfer a lot of wealth to Texas.

Obviously Kerry is not going to do that. Obviously Kerry doesn't want chaos.

Europe (because of the EU), Russia (because it's finally getting back on track), Asia, Africa, South America -- the rest of the world is on the brink of rapid economic expansion. They all need cheap oil to help them develop. They don't want chaos in the ME.

They are OBVIOUSLY going to work with Kerry, and they're going to work with Kerry for the very reason they wouldn't work with Bush. Bush wanted their soldiers to die in a chaotic Iraq (with the American press lying to the world about democratic elections). Kerry wants stability and real democracy in Iraq. Kerry doesn't want that.

They're going to participate. There won't be a draft in the US. And it won't be costing taxpayers 200 billion bucks to underwrite the profitability of some very large Texas corporations.

But they damned well WON'T follow Bush again.

There's not a shovel big enough to clean up his mess...

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already agreeing to talks with our team since they TRUST their intentions.

Bush has done nothing but insult our allies in Europe (except Poland!). Kerry is clearly more diplomatic and has a much better chance of forming a real coalition. I'm guessing that he would allow other countries to bid on contracts to rebuild Iraq's oil and infrastructure.

Perhaps Kerry can't say everything that you said so well in your post, but I don't understand why he can't say, "They'll agree to work with someone who hasn't caused the mess in Iraq." I was a little disappointed that Kerry did not seem to address this accusation by * directly during the debate.

Kerry said other leaders won't work with Bush because they don't trust him because you can't trust him. Hell, we don't even trust him.

that is only good for Texans. They know what Kerry wants, and it's good for every COUNTRY in the world, including America. What's good for a few very wealthy Texans is not good for the world, and it's not good for America, and nobody with any sense should be willing to die for those rich Texans.

and it IS in the World's best interest to have a peaceful Middle East. They know that. The problem with Bush is, he got us into the mess...why would they want to join in with his failed effort and risk believing that HE can fix it? And it doesn't matter now that it's "the wrong war at the wrong time." The World knows it is! It's still in their best interest to fix it! In fact, I think they'll be more likely to jump in to help when they hear us admit it was a mistake and show our willingness to try a new direction to clean our mess up. I believe that they will be much more likely to get involved when Kerry is president and the war is under "new management."
Why do you think restaurants always advertise when they're "under new management?" It works, that's why.

need the Texas oil men out of the White House and to see them replaced with people who aren't fascists.

No words need to be exchanged. Anyone with any sense can see what's going on.

and the European Union. Right after taking office, Bush began trying to drive a wedge between "old Europe" and "new Europe" (eastern Europe). He offered about 4 dozen US fighter jets to Poland with loan terms so favorable it was a virtual gift (except to the American taxpayer). The result was that France and Sweden who were competing on the contract couldn't make the sale after Bush stepped in. Chirac was the first foreign leader to visit New York after 911 and Bush virtually ignored him. Chirac is the only representative of the permanent UN Security Council Bush hasn't invited to his ranch. The Bush Agenda was to isolate and villify France and Germany from the very start, as part of the Neocon plan to divide Europe so that America could more fully expand its dominion and influence in the world and stop the Euro from becoming the primary currency of exchange, particularly with regards to oil contracts. I think that Bush has intentionally tried to avoid an alliance with Europe as an entity. He has tried to peel off members of the European Union and foment conflict. The lack of allies in Iraq such as Belgium, France, Germany, in fact has been part of the Bush plan all along. The Neocons wanted to score a double victory through the war in Iraq: in creating a base of American influence in the Middle East and in dividing Europe and trying to weaken the European Union.

merger. Bush wanted it for GE badly. The EU, however, has a real, committed, uncorrupted attitude towards anti-trust laws. Without an EU, Bush probably could have blackmailed each European country individually. But a powerful EU stood in the way of Bush's fascist whoring for GE. That's no good if you're a Republican.

rather than to follow someone you KNOW is the devil.

will do, and it's perfectly obvious what Kerry will do.

Their motivations couldn't be more obvious.

First,Great Britain would,given Kerry,s close personal friendship with Gordon Brown th the Chancellor of the Exchecquer, a freindship that is nearly 20 years old, with Kerry frequently sending private jets to pick up Brown for vacations.

Next public opinion in all but one or two of the members of the EEC, where polls recently taken indicate thst 77 percent of the citizens of Europe would vote for Kerry if they had a vote.

In Europe , public opinion seems to have more of a bearing on the choices of politicians. You see what happened in Spain when Aznar sided with Bush.

Next, Putin all but endirsed Kerry a month ago in a Pravda interview where he said the U.S. would be better off if Kerry were president.. Also said things would go a lot better in Iraq if Kerry were elected. As big a hint a head of state can give and as good as saying Russia will assist in peacekeeping if Kerry is elected. Where Russia gives support,expect France to go along.

Also, prior to the passage if the Iraq Resolution, Kerry went to the members of the security council to asl their opinions on Iraq, as well as what it would take to be part of the coalition.

He was answered and a good deal of the portions of the legislation that required Bush to exhaust diplomatic efforts and only go to war if there was a direct threat to the U.S. ended up in the bill because of Kerry's meeting.

While these European po;;s were going on,there was considerable sentiment going on that the citizens of other nations felt that they should actually have some input into the selection of an American president given the influence America has over the rest of the world. Then in their mock election/polls they went on to select Kerry. In som countries by almost 90 percent, but the average around 77 percent.

There is a great deal of evidence that Europe bemoans the failing relations with the U.S. since 2000 and looks to change in leadership.

The very best sign they could give tp indicate this would be to bacl up that leader, and so prove to the American electorate that thebest choice for America is also the best choice for Europe.and that the needs of both continents nees not be mutually exclusive.

Because HE will cooperate with them.

Takes two to tango. Bush never wanted to cooperate with them.

...chaos in the ME, the rest of the world would fall in line because it's in everyone's interest to have less chaos in the ME. Everyone except a few very wealthy Texans, that is.

"The President has little to no credibility in the eyes of the world. America will lead the world once our crediblity is restored, which will be my number one priority when I am in office."

I mean, the odds will be much greater, anyway. There's still the "JESUS CHRIST what's WITH you people?" stigma to work through..yes, I know people are more pissed at B*sh than America per se, but they're intelligent enough to know that a sizable portion of our population is stupid enough to support him.

If I had my way, Kerry would apologize for the last four years in his inaugural address, on behalf of America, to the rest of the world. Won't happen, but it's nice to dream...

...make life better for its citizens, and there's so much "interconnectedness" today that, for most countries, they realize that they're better off when everyone is better off. So more wealth for more people is the operating principle...for everyone except a few rich Texans.

Fuck stigmas. Kerry doesn't need to apologize. He just needs to embark on a policy where we're all better off when we're all better off.

peace and stability.