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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:35 PM
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How do we know that the babies in the mass grave weren't our victims
Our troops have been seen creating mass graves. Maybe this is one of them.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:36 PM
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1. Remains are too old. Probably from Iran/Iraq war.
Read a post yesterday about the remains being from 88/89 era.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:40 PM
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2. If it was from a war, it might have been the Iranians who killed them
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:45 PM
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3. Or Saddam might have killed them when he was our Good Friend.
Back when Reagan was in the White House & Bush Sr was the VP.
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Barney Rocks Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:46 PM
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4. Genius--bones decay at a constant rate.
When we dig up bones, it is quite simple to find out approximately when the person deceased and their bones began to decompose. If you want to read more about the process their is a lot about it in studies of the tombs of the Pharoahs, and in various anthropology studies, or forensic science. Dead men do indeed tell tales. These bones have already been assayed and it is known that these people died AT LEAST 15 years ago. We tend to get very good--but approximate dates with the most common methods. These people have been dead between 15-25 years with a 99% probability. This is long before American troops had any "boots on the ground" over there.

The best current theory is that these killings took place during the 1980's because it fits with the social history of the region--Saddam is known to have purged many (probably around 300,000) ethnic peoples during that time. I am sure that since the killings took place fairly recently in history, there will be people that know something that will help us nail down the dates even more specifically. But--there is zero chance that our soldiers created these mass graves by killing these people within the last year. They just did not die that recently and it would be extremely unlikely for the scientists to be this far off--the methods they use are very good and very well validated.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:46 PM
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5. A massacre we wouldn't condemn
The Senate passed a resolution condemning this massacre and sanctions legislation. Reagan wouldn't sign. We ignored it in 1988. That needs to be made very clear.

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/md08_vanhollen/iraqresolutionspeech.html
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 02:49 PM
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6. Our government knew about it at the time and did nothing
It happened during the Reagan/Bush and Bush/Quale era. Saddam was their best friend.

Kehoe said the victims appear to be Kurds, based on the dress and the personal belongings found.

He believes they were probably killed in early 1988, though it might have happened in late 1987.


http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/index.html

AMY GOODMAN: Well It t sounds like they would not be the only ones on trial in a just world, if Halabjah is the example being used for the killing of innocent civilians. When we come back, I’d like you to actually give the numbers of the times Halabjah was raised right after it happened through the gulf war, and then how often it has been raised now. But what about that trip in 1990 that senator Alfonse D’Amato took—rather, senator Robert Dole took? Alfonse D’Amato was raising this issue early on. But Senator Robert Dole went with four other senators to meet with Saddam Hussein in northern Iraq, and they fought to prevent sanctions from being applied to Saddam Hussein. This was after Halubjah. It was senator Robert dole, then senator-Alan Simpson of Wyoming, senator Frank Murkowski of Alaska, and senator Howard Metzenbaum of Ohio. Stay with us.

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=2840&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported
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