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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:52 AM Original message |
Could We Lose This Spin War Over the Mary Cheney comment? |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah, if we let them say that being gay is a bad thing. nt |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. JK's reference was positive....he was not attacking her at all. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Exactly. He said it himself- God makes people the way they are, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
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Demi_Babe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. no way...I don't think so at all. |
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highplainsdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
76. I don't think so either. Tim Russert pointed out on the Today Show |
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Memekiller (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
4. Bush's Osama line... |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:18 AM Response to Reply #4 |
66. The OBL lie illustrated, print & distribute! |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
79. What was the Osma line, I was distracted during that part. n/t |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 09:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
86. Bingo! |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
5. Ridiculous. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
6. It's always risky to say what another person "would say". |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. mary cheney thinks being gay is a choice? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I don't think so, but is it wise to speak for her? |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
82. Why? |
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PretzelWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. by doing what? does it offend good Christians in Kansas? |
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Radio-Active (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. Just a distraction for the pundits.. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. Kerry can say, "I apologize for protecting Mary Cheney's right to exist |
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Selwynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. I would kill for him to actually say that! |
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Francine Frensky (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
55. Oooooh, good one. |
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complain jane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
10. Stop. Really. |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. NewsMax: "Firestorm Erupts Over Kerry's 'Lesbian' Attack" |
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sr_pacifica (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
46. Kind and respectful---absolutely. They came from the heart. n/t |
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liberal_in_GA (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
64. exactly |
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Dookus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. I doubt it |
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pmbryant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Yep |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. So keep it in the news. The only one it hurts is the Fundies and haters |
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carpetbagger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
12. Absolutely not. Osama quotes will rule the day. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
13. Not if we aren't henny pennys over it |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
16. please |
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missouri dem (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
18. Here in Missouri the gay marrige amendment passed |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. I like what Kerry said about Mary Cheney |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It's our wedge issue... |
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baltodemvet (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
53. I'm in favor of gay marriage too |
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jezebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
23. I don't think it was wrong of Kerry to say, BUT I do think the media will |
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mellowinman (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
27. If someone gave you a million dollars |
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jezebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. NYTIMES article. First paragraph. Kerry "looses" 3 votes over comment |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Overall that entire article leaned more heavy FOR Kerry |
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jezebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I agree, they seemed Bush voters anyway. My point is it is the first |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
81. AGAIN, BUSH called Mary Cheney a sinner during is Hate of the Union |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. I can't stop thinking about this shit I'm sorry. I'm anxious as hell about |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:27 AM Response to Reply #29 |
71. HER OWN DAMN FATHER BROUGHT IT UP TWO WEEKS EARLIER |
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Bombtrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #71 |
88. When? |
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ogradda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
31. everybody knows she's gay |
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Barney Rocks (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
33. OK--obviously since |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
34. Here's what Andrew Sullivan had to say about it |
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Francine Frensky (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Sullivan's got the right idea here |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
84. Sullivan makes an excellent point...thanks for the post |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. Let the Republicans defend gay people |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
36. I hope this stays in the news all the way to the election. |
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dave123williams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
37. That's rich... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
38. What's to spin? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
39. Personally... |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
40. Only if the democrats form a circle and start shooting each other |
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humanbeing (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 04:31 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. this has no legs... |
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lfs5 (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 04:39 AM Response to Original message |
42. Mary Cheney |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 04:40 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. It did come up in the VP debate. Personally |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #42 |
87. Hi lfs5!! |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'm sure KKKarl and his minions will try... |
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jezebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 04:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. CNN just played the clip followed by video of Lynne Cheney saying he is |
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KennedyGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Look...its not Kerrys problem if the cheneys |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:06 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That's the bottom line. |
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jezebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:14 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I agree with you I just hate the media and their desire to play this up NT |
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baltodemvet (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
49. I don't know about spin |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. There's no reason not to. nt |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
52. Kerry needs to point out how the Cheney's respect for their daughter... |
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sgtyellerdawg (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
54. I posted this earlier... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:29 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. We need to force the issue |
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Radio-Active (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:21 AM Response to Reply #58 |
68. Exactly! |
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Richardson08 (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
56. Some right wing conservatives might not vote for */* because of the |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
59. IMO, I wasn t comfortable with it. |
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Catt03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:49 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I would not have said it |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
60. Absolutely Not. -- Cheney Himself "Used" His Daughter |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:54 AM Response to Original message |
62. yes, we could lose the spin war if the press concentrates on this |
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evilqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:16 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. we don't have "places" we're all Americans |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
63. at first i thought kerry should apologize, i was wrong |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
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Free2BMe (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
69. Look WHO IS embarrassed by this???? |
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Onlooker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
70. It's not a big deal |
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Free2BMe (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
72. this is a non issue because in the issues ..bush loses |
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ladybugg33 (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
73. The media is hurting the Bush ticket more by keeping it in the news. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
74. No. I say guns blazing. Open up both barrels the hypocrisy that is |
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Enraged_Ape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
75. It's so (SNIFF) touching to see the righties' concern for homosexuals |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:36 AM Response to Reply #75 |
85. Right on. My analysis exactly. |
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DemocracyInaction (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
77. Don't see much of it at all today on the networks and cable |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
78. Bush called Mary Cheney a SINNER during his Hate of the Union |
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MallRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
80. Mary Cheney was out of the closet. The Bushies have an uphill climb here. |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-04 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
83. Why is it offensive? |
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