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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:25 AM
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electoral-vote.com has issue
He should rename his sight

strategicvisions-rasmussen.com

all of his polls are SR and rass. The entire maps is that. He never puts up polls from papers or other polls. He had a chance this morning of using a NEW poll from Insider Advantage which shows Kerry leading Florida. Instead he used ANOTHER Strategic vision poll.

There has to be some kind of limit for one polling company, and to allow more variatons in poll sources. He is not doing that, and thus his entire map has become strategiv vision and rassmussen.

He says he doesnt trust those polls, but then he uses them over all others even if it's the same date.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:27 AM
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1. People here say he is a Democrat
I think he's an idiot.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:39 AM
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2. His site is based on "latest poll" wins
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:43 AM by featherman
I find it useful. It is NOT a predictor site, merely a list of most recent polling. It is obvious looking at his numbers that Kerry will win the Electoral Vote. Obvious!!! Why so many DUers gets their panties in a bunch about his site is beyond me.
He is a DEM and a Kerry supporter.
Helpful hint: if you don't know how to interpret polls within historical context and adjust for methodology...STOP READING THEM!

ps My guess is that the GOP polling org, Strategic Vision, is purposely releasing their numbers more frequently and with specific timing to maintain a certain EV illusion.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:41 AM
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3. I gave up on this site. eom
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:46 AM
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4. If strategic vision has florida as a tie..
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:48 AM by BUSHOUT
you know it's solidly in Kerrys column.

The guy who runs that sight admits openly that people have problems with strategic vision and that they sometimes stray from other polls, but until they're caught red-handed he won't write them off.

It's a fair attitude.

PS. read his commentary/analysis underneath the map. It changes daily and I usually find it encouraging.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:47 AM
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5. He Goes With The Most Recent Polls
Those groups do them constantly where his other sources do them once a week or two week. Remember he's using specific state polls not the rolling national ones that the Cable channels use.

Tomorrow there should be a fresh batch of state polls from various newspapers that should be very telling. Also you'll see more updating as these organizations and the big pollsters start doing more and more polling in the key battlegrounds.

Until now the battlegrounds have been a loose vision based on how things were in 2000, now a firmer picture is coming into shape. For example, Michigan has been solid Kerry all year and now has been moved out of that catagory. Colorado is now in play. As it becomes clearer where the real swing states.

Also, I've noticed some states (especially Red states in the west) haven't been polled in weeks or months. There can't be as strong support for his assholiness in some of those places (Alaska for example) and this won't be figured in at all, just assumed based on the 2000 vote.

One of the big stories of this election will be the massive disconnect the media and pollsters have had with the voters. They haven't kept up with changes in lifestyles and technology and the population in general.

Recently I heard a program that says how grossly underestimated the young vote will be and how large it is. Many of these kids are the children of baby boomers...the largest population bulge that came of age in the 70's...now their children are doing the same. This person predicted the votes cast this year could clear 125 million (I'll settle for 120).
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:49 AM
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6. he had a choice today
between inside advantage, florida insisder and strategic visions. the first two showed a kerry lead.

surprise, he went with Strategiv vision again. He always does.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:58 AM
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7. He's got a set of rules he follows and he follws them
That's called a rigorous method as opposed to just taking the ones he liked best, that's called slacking.

If you know what the rules are you can use them effectively, if the rules keep changing you can't tell what's going on. I prefer to know what's going on.

RIchard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY
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