Holy SH*T! CBS poll has AWOL approval at 44%

Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:41 PM
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Holy SH*T! CBS poll has AWOL approval at 44%

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/18/politics/main649964.shtml

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RevolutionStartsNow

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:42 PM
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1. WOW!

That's great news! Well, not for Bush. :)

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newsguyatl

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:43 PM
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2. THIS is the story! but it won't be told

an incumbant "war president" at 44% approval.

outstanding.

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bear425

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:46 PM
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3. Joe Scarborough just said the election is over - * winner

Can you believe the whoring that is going on?

I waved campaign signs at an early voting location today and got lots of thumbs up and honking for K/E. Only on B/C waver and he did get nearly as good a response!

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Cha

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:06 PM
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9. Zogby says

differently!

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ogradda

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:15 PM
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13. i heard him too

then i laughed....

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calimary

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Tue Oct-19-04 07:57 AM
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21. Maybe it's a good thing. Lull the republi-CONS to sleep.

If they think their guy has it in the bag, maybe a few of 'em will kick back. Urgency? What urgency? If they think their guy is really in trouble, watch 'em get out the vote. They are better off feeling complacent.

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Cha

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:06 PM
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8. 44% is way too much for this

Wretched Derelict! But not enough to make him a 2 termer.

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Stephanie

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:48 PM
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4. That's the deadly number

Bush is toast. His approval number will = his vote tally. This is the number to watch.

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NJCher

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:49 PM
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5. Two significant quotes from this article:

The Los Angeles Times reported Monday that some observers look at the president's approval rating as a key factor, with any rating below 50 percent spelling trouble for the incumbent.

and

Whatever trends are reflected by the numbers on job approval, favorability and right track/wrong track, few pollsters are making any predictions of what those trends augur.

The horserace numbers are eyed most suspiciously; Abromowitz notes that in the last week of the 2000 campaign, there were 43 polls. Mr. Bush was leading in 39. The next week, Al Gore won the popular vote.

Cher

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bush equals idiot

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:52 PM
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6. The senior political correspondent

on Olbermann tonight said that it has consistently shown in almost every election, that a president is lucky if he gets 1 % more of the vote than his favorable rating. All the others break for the challenger.

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Stephanie

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Mon Oct-18-04 09:55 PM
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7. I saw a Clinton pollster demonstrate this with charts

Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 10:12 PM by Stephanie

It was on C-Span. He laid the approval trend line over the vote tally and it matched almost perfectly every time, while the horse race poll numbers were far less accurate. It's the incumbent's job approval that is key when there is an incumbent in the race.

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I Lean Left

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:43 PM
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16. We also know that approval numbers vary state to state

Bush has much higher approval numbers in the south than in the northeast. When talking about stealing states like AK or NC or VA, that has to be remembered. And then remember to add Nader's take to the rating, because that's the actual number Kerry has to beat.

I would like to see every state poll include the approval rating, right track/wrong track along with the horse race numbers. Allow us to do electoral tracking on that basis!

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Gloria

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:53 PM
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17. I saw that, too, back a few months. Skolnick...he's now with the

Kerry campaign!!

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Stephanie

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Tue Oct-19-04 07:45 AM
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20. Thank you! Skolnick.

I could not remember his name. He was terrific and it's the only thing I think about now when I hear the numbers.

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Shopaholic

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:07 PM
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10. It was Lawrence O'Donnell

he said that the rule holds true whether the candidate is Republican or Democratic and whether the race if for Governor, Senate, House, or for the White House. He says Kerry will win!

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Lex

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:10 PM
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11. Did you see Aaron Brown choke out this 44% number at the end of

his show tonight.

He wanted to say it means Bush is toast and Kerry wins, but he chewed on his words and finally muttered out how it "might possibly" mean a Kerry victory.

It was priceless.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:13 PM
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12. That muttering was because of the electrodes attached to his 'nads.

He started to say something positive about Kerry and they let him have it.

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Lex

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:17 PM
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14. It sure seemed like it! n/t

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Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Oct-18-04 11:17 PM
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It sounded like he was GLAD to report AWOL's days are numbered.

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Proud2BAmurkin

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Mon Oct-18-04 11:17 PM
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19. It sounded like he was GLAD to report AWOL's days are numbered.

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RevolutionStartsNow

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:33 PM
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15. In honor of this alarmingly low approval rating for *

I'm changing my avatar.

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Democat

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Mon Oct-18-04 10:57 PM
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18. The problem is that the right wing has brought Kerry's down too

Negative attacks work, especially when they are targeted and sustained.

Democrats need to learn that lesson!

Kerry needs to destroy Bush in these last few weeks if we are going to win!

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