Kerry Excommunicated?

KERRY SAID TO BE EXCOMMUNICATED

Los Angeles, Oct. 18 (CWNews.com) - A consultant to the Vatican has said Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has incurred the penalty of excommunication from the Catholic Church.

The consultant made his statement in a highly unusual letter to Marc Balestrieri, a Los Angeles canon lawyer who formally sued John Kerry in ecclesiastical court for heresy.

Balestrieri, who launched his case earlier this year by filing a heresy complaint in Kerry's home archdiocese of Boston, told EWTN's "World Over" program on Friday that he had received an unusual, indirect communication from the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith regarding the pro-abortion stance.

That communication provides a basis, he said, to declare that any Catholic politician who says he is "personally opposed to abortion, but supports a woman's right to choose," incurs automatic excommunication. It also provided a basis for Balestrieri to broaden his canonical actions and file additional complaints against four more pro-abortion Catholic politicians: Democrat Senators Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts and Tom Harkin of Iowa; Republican Senator Susan Collins of Maine; and former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, a Democrat.

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http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=50517

Joe Conson wrote about them in "Big Lies" I can't remember what the lead guys name was though.

there be left? They'd have to excommunicate more than half of us.

Vatican denies it responded to lawyer seeking Kerry's excommunication

By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- An official at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith said a California canon lawyer seeking a formal decree of heresy against Sen. John F. Kerry of Massachusetts, Democratic presidential nominee, has misrepresented his contact with the Vatican office.

"The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has had no contact with Mr. (Marc) Balestrieri," said Dominican Father Augustine DiNoia, undersecretary of the congregation.

This is bullshit. Ignore it.

and I can tell you first hand that this use of the church for political purposes is angering many long-time Catholics. Between the molestations and this political stuff, many are switching to the Episcopal Church which has similar ceremonies and doctrine without the self-righteous crapola that comes with being a Catholic.

Of course, some Episcopal Churches are splitting into two - ones that support gay marriage and the others who do not.

Such is the pathetic state of Christianity today.

telling them how to vote.

organized 'Christian' churches are!

But I don't believe the Catholic church has excommunicated very many (if any) of its dozens of convicted pedophile priests. (Never mind the hundreds they know about who have not been convicted.)

Kerry should respond to this in a manner that would win the hearts of many moderate and liberal Catholics, and a great many other people: "I'll take this seriously when you excommunicate the child abusers you harbor."

In my opinion, the Catholic Church can be considered, to some extent, a terrorist organization. After all, they harbor terrorists, and you're either with us or against us.

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The evangelical bunch will outnumber us if we don't shore up the Catholic and Jewish vote ! We have to have them ! IMO !

The centuries old chestnut of taking orders from Rome..............

Make the Catholics think that he is excomunicated and they should not vote for him.
That is a fair number of voters in this country.

outrageous smears thrown out there on Kerry before 11/2.

If I vote for a "heretic" I must be a heretic too.

As a Catholic I would have to say in light of the revalations of the past several years the Roman Catholic Church in the United States can ill afford any more bad publicity.

with no reference to the denial from Catholic news.

I have written them and asked for a retraction. I think we all should.

Abramson@NYtimes.com

Its a very specific legalistic process, beginning in the diocese individual belongs to. A "consultant to the Vatican" can't even initiate an investigation.

The United Methodists are a little less strict, though:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1109480
http://www.petitiononline.com/tmrloc03/petition.html

BIG FUCKING TIME.

Here, a thorouhgly corrupt and evil organization attacks a candidate support's a woman's right to choose, but hides serial child abusers from the law?


This will backfire. Just watch.

This cherrypicking of issues is maddening.

:kick:

The process to excommunicate someone is long and arduous. To even claim that there is some blanket 'auto-excommunicate' edict in effect is ridiculous bordering on a sin in and of itself (according to doctrine). If Mr. Balestrieri is an observant Catholic I suggest he speak quickly and honestly with his confessor.

Richard Ray - Jackson Hole, WY

when he got divorced. or does the Church not do that anymore? either way....bullshit.

after having 2 kids? my religion is so strange.