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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:41 PM
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California DUers! BURY the Governor's office with calls & e-mails now!!!
This has also been posted in the California and GD Forums, but it's a matter of extreme urgency and importance.

It seems that our power-grabbing governor will soon be on a junket to Ohio to stump for his Fuhrer. This bozo, like McCain, is working both sides of the street -- it becomes easy to ease off on him when he is for issues like stem-cell research. But when the chips are down, he tows the GOP party line.

But campaigning for The Chimp on California's time is out of the question. Arnold is extremely popular with mainstream crowds that still cannot discern between his screen persona and the political shark that he is.

Let Arnold **hear** that you don't appreciate his taking time off from California state matters to campaign for a Republican president in the battleground state of Ohio.

Aim your outrage here:

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-445-4633

To send an Electronic Mail please visit:
http://www.govmail.ca.gov

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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/10...
CAMPAIGN 2004
STAR POWER: Schwarzenegger plans Ohio trip to boost Bush
- Carla Marinucci, John M. Hubbell, Chronicle Political Writers
San Francisco Chronicle
Wednesday, October 20, 2004
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger plans a high-profile trip to the presidential battleground state of Ohio on the weekend before the Nov. 2 election -- an effort aimed at pumping up GOP voters and leveraging the governor's star power to boost President Bush's chances of success.

Though the governor downplayed the idea Tuesday of campaign appearances for Bush, insiders said plans are under way for a trip the weekend of Oct. 29 -- enabling the former Mr. Olympia to maximize his influence in Ohio, where he has real estate holdings and a following thanks to his annual Columbus- based Arnold Classic bodybuilding competition.

Some political insiders have wondered aloud why the most popular GOP politician in the nation -- who publicly broke ranks with Bush and his party on the issue of stem cell research this week when he endorsed California's Proposition 71 -- has been noticeably absent from the campaign trail for the Republican president.
<snip>
"He's obviously very careful about how he spends his political capital. He's very focused,'' said Carrick.

And if the governor campaigns in Ohio in the final days, "he's out there when you're guaranteed to get the most electronic exposure you possibly can, and at a time when there's very little accessibility to any of the media.''

The trip would come at a time when Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry has lavished attention on the Buckeye state, which has 20 electoral votes. Kerry has been there twice this week alone.
<snip>

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:45 PM
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1. OH GOOD! His wife will cut him off for a LONG TIMe for this one!
Of course, maybe that doesn't matter to him since he can find so many other women to make him happy.

I don't live in Ca. so my bashing him won't matter much.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:46 PM
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2. I kinda don't see the problem
He is traveling on a weekend, we aren't in any kind of crisis in California, and he has a right to support his party.

Maybe if you could explain why it is wrong? Are we paying for it? I think the Governor gave up his salary, didn't he?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:50 PM
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5. He's said he would not do this...
not to mention that he's really not representing the state by doing it. He's our elected Governor, and we overwhelmingly do not want to see George Jr. elected, so it's like saying "I don't give a shit what my constituents say; it's all about party."

At least that's the way I see it.

david
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:57 PM
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9. I'll try
While there may be nothing unethical or illegal about it -- he has a right to free speech -- he was elected for his relatively moderate stances and balanced approach to policy making. And...his performance in Predator.

Campaigning in support of this administration has nothing to do with California's interests and does not reflect moderate, balanced government. This WH administration is way out there in uncharted, illegal, unethical territory and I would prefer that our governor not keep company with it.

Bush has disdain for California. If it were up to this administration, our national forests in California would be raped, our air and water not protected, sensitive habitat bulldozed for development, our ports not made safe, our beaches made private, our shores drilled for oil, our democratic majority marginalized....

...and since most of these are happening we don't need any more of it. The last thing California needs is another 4 years of this administration.

So I oppose the leader of our state campaigning for this failed, lying, bunch of crooks.
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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:13 PM
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12. What's wrong? What planet?
Bush is a war criminal and a murderer. He lied to this nation to start an illegal war that has killed tens of thousands. He and his fascist neocons are destroying this nation, and emptying its treasury, and you think it's OK for the Gropernator to campaign for him? Would it be OK for Ahnold to campaign for someone like Hitler, or maybe some other murderer?

Gheesh! :grr:
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:37 PM
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17. hang on hang on *backing away slowly*
Okay here is the thing. Let's pretend I'm an ignorant freeper who believes that I need to hold the party line regardless of what my party does. Or even better I'm "undecided".

And I see all these crazy hippy peace loving democrats attacking the governor for traveling to Ohio to talk about the candidates.

Now remember, I'm too ignorant to know that bush is a war criminal, fascist, neocon, shopper til you drop, etc.

So by all these democrats demanding their governor not go talk about Bush how does that help Ohioians who then say, "Those damn democrats are all about the party line. Screw them, I'm voting republican".
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:16 PM
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26. Last time I checked, Californians didn't send Arnold to Sacto to be
a GOP stump-puppet, shilling for Bush.

Now, I opposed the recall. I'd chew off my own foot before voting for Ahhh-nold.

But the guy did campaign on being "non-partisan" and "moderate" and just "the best guy for the job", as opposed to being a GOP party line guy.

Now they want to trot him out cuz Bush is hurting in Ohio.

Sorry, he's my governor, even if he didn't get there legitimately- or with my support. I have a right to ask what the hell he's doing going to Ohio, trying to drum up support for a President most Californians can't stand.

(Oh... and where do you get that anyone who is irritated by this is a "crazy hippy"? And why is "hippy" such an insult, anyway?)

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omnithrope Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:40 PM
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18. I agree.
When did it become wrong for a partisan politician to campaign for his nominee?
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:45 PM
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20. What makes it wrong is that he promised not to do it
or at least said he wouldn't. I took it as a promise.

Plus, come on! He's the Governor of California! He shouldn't be promoting a candidate most of us hate. Particularly if he wants to stay in office. We're just telling him that we don't approve.

david
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:41 PM
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19. He just said that he was in favor of stem cell
research. Now he's going off to stump for the biggest opposer of stem cell research? He wants to win Californian's votes with this issue, and at the same time make sure it doesn't pass. I see a problem with that.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:47 PM
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21. yea but Arnold isn't up for re-election, Bush is
So why not work with your party. isn't that what politics is all about?

The true problem I see with this is from the 2000 event, when Davis was our governor.

After Bush got the white house, Davis asked for help from the federal government to solve the California Energy Crisis and Bush thumbed his nose at us.

I don't believe Kerry will be like that so I don't see why Arnold can't politic for his guy.

NOTE: if you show me some quotes where arnold said he would not campaign for the president outside of california I will write the finest you are a hypocrictical governor and a bad actor to boot letter that has been seen on this thread.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:50 PM
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22. Ooooh oooh oooh, I'll find the quote if only to read your letter!
I'm on the job!

david
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:59 PM
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23. This is the best I can do before heading home from work...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2004-08-10-arnold-cover_x.htm
The Bush campaign would love to put Schwarzenegger onstage with the president in closely contested states, but Schwarzenegger says he won't be able to campaign outside California. "Since I'm governor now, I have to really work for the state of California," he told National Public Radio last week.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20041014/pl_nm/campaign_schwarzenegger_dc
"I don't want to travel around the country really," he told KABC in Los Angeles. "That's not what they people want me to do. They want me to stay here and do my job."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/09/03/MNGGU8J9V51.DTL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger -- who jetted back to California on Thursday night without hearing President Bush's speech to the Republican National Convention -- is downplaying for the moment suggestions that he campaign outside the state for the president, saying, "My priority is to fix California."
"I don't want to go out and work for the next two months and work for the president, because I'm working for California,'' Schwarzenegger said at news conference Wednesday after a California delegate lunch at Planet Hollywood.
The governor said he had "no plans right now" for any trips to swing states, such as Ohio, where the Bush campaign has asked him to appear, and suggested such a partisan trip would be unfair to the more than half of California voters who are Democrats.
"It is extremely important for me to stay in California and do my job,'' he said. "We have, as you know, a huge majority of Democrats in the state ... and a lot of them have voted for me.
"And I have to represent them. I have to fight for them. I really have to get things done. It would be wrong to see me every day on the road, going from state to state,'' Schwarzenegger said. "That's not what people voted for. That's not why people sent me to Sacramento.''

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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:13 PM
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36. Nice job, I am on it!
Thanks for the quotes. I hate it when they change their mind. Darn Flip floppers.

I'll be back (with a letter)! *hahahaha*
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:46 PM
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40. Well the quotes say Arnold will not campiagn for days on end
But I worked them in anyway to show how he is neglecting us Californians. I avoided the bad actor thing and decided to smooze him a little:

Dear Governor,

When the state of California recalled her legally elected Governor and put you into office, you were given a serious responsibility. I don't have to tell you that there is so much work to be done here in our beautiful state. You said “Since I'm governor now, I have to really work for the state of California,” and I believed you meant it.

I think that to spend any time in another state working towards the re-election of a President who ignores and belittles the issues in California is wrong. You are planning a political stumping speech in Ohio on the weekend before election day that will break your word that “I don't want to go out and work . . .for the president, because I'm working for California “ If the President wants your support, he should have the respect to travel to our state and ask for it. .

Once our president said “I am a uniter not a divider.” He has since proven himself the complete opposite. You have the chance to be a uniter, and you have been working hard in California to do the right thing on the issues that have been brought to you. I think you said it best when you told Californians: “I have to represent them. I have to fight for them. I really have to get things done. It would be wrong to see me every day on the road, going from state to state; That's not what people voted for. That's not why people sent me to Sacramento."

This may only be one weekend, not many months or many days, but it means a lot more to me that you concern yourself with whether our election in California is going to run smoothly than whether or not Ohioans are going to select the republican candidate. I have seen you promoting different issues in California, so I know you have interest in the propositions facing our citizens. Why not spend the pre-election weekend meeting with Californians and talking to them about their vote on these propositions, or explaining to California how you can support a man for president who has so many policies and view points that conflict with your own.

Please do not spend your time playing partisan politics and sacrificing your own beliefs for the good of your party. Work for your state, not your party.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:26 PM
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29. Really! I see a conflict of Fucking
Interest here!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:46 PM
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3. President Kerry should deport Ahhnuld!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:48 PM
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4. I agree!!! (We Californians can feel useful for once!)
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 06:04 PM by dnvechoes
Let's all let him know this is NOT what we expect of him and if he does it, he's violating the trust of Californians who overwhelmingly do not want George Jr. elected.

Also, he's said at least once (but I believe more often), that he wasn't going to campaign for George Jr. outside the state, so this is a broken promise.

Go get him!

This was my letter:

Subject: Another broken promise?

Dear Governor Schwarzenegger:

You cannot imagine my disappointment with the news I read today on SFGate indicating that you planned a trip to Ohio to support the candidacy of George W. Bush. I have to admit that I was pleased and relieved when I heard you promise, repeatedly, that you would only support George W. Bush when he visited our great state, and NOT on the campaign trail. I hope that this decision is not a precedent setting broken promise to the people of California.

You must also understand that when we elected you to office, we elected a strong willed moderate who captured the hopes of Californians all over the state. We understood that you would be leading from the middle, not from some crazed partisan stance as you and your colleagues showed at the Republican National Convention. We were disappointed with your choice to appear at the Convention as well as your speech in general.

You are letting us down Mr. Schwarzenegger and betraying your constituency here in California where we overwhelmingly oppose the election of George W. Bush. We did not elect you to be a cheerleader for the current administration, but rather to reach across the aisle HERE AT HOME and solve our divisions.

I beg you to reconsider this visit, and rather, to stay here in California until after the election to help us solve our own problems and build a better state.

Best regards,

David V*
Lompoc, California
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:53 PM
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8. Outstanding letter, dnvechoes!!!!
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 05:53 PM by rezmutt
Terrific message in every way!

:toast:
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:17 PM
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27. Great letter, David...
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 07:18 PM by Andromeda
Now I'll get busy and write one of my own. :)
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:22 PM
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28. Woo hooo!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:51 PM
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6. Keep it up! I called the Gov's office, and was told that...
Arnold's trip to Ohio hasn't been cast in stone officially yet. Whether that's BS or not, who knows.

But I think if we pressure the office significantly, the outcome could be affected!

:bounce:
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:52 PM
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7. Great work!
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:00 PM
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10. called office
left my name and residence and told the lady that
I understand the Governor will be campaigning in Ohio
and she said nothing has been committed yet.
I told her with the elections coming up and we are the largest state in the union he needs to be here serving the people of California.
she took the message
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:09 PM
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11. *cough*
:kick:
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naufragus Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:14 PM
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13. Who is paying for arnold to go?
is it RNC funds?
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:15 PM
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14. He has a business in Ohio
So, I do believe that we Ohioans should e-mail him also and let him know that we don't want him here. We could hurt his business in Columbus and we should if he sticks his slimy nose in our state on partisan politics. I am off to e-mail Herr Bubbingrabber.

:argh:
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:17 PM
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15. Great!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:29 PM
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30. Go Shirlden!
Tell him you will hurt him(business wise) if he comes to stump for whistle ass!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:29 PM
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16. I'm sending e-mails to every Democrat I know in California asking them
to do the same...

david

In other words

:kick:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:11 PM
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24. Text of message I sent:
Governor Schwarzenegger;

As a concerned Californian, I am absolutely outraged that you are taking time out of dealing with the pressing problems facing our state to travel to Ohio to stump for George W. Bush. I do not believe that it was for this sort of partisan grandstanding that the people of California sent you to Sacramento. Your primary duty is to the folks in this state, and to the myriad problems we are facing- election season or not. You rode into the Governor's office on a host of promises, among them that you were 'non-partisan' and 'only want to get the job done'. Well, apparently getting the job done means shilling for a President who is overwhelmingly opposed by most Californians, and who pushes an extremist agenda wildly out of whack with our values. You cannot continue to talk out of both sides of your mouth and expect the voters of this state to fail to take notice. We expect a Governor, not a Republican mouthpiece and swing state stage prop. I urge you to reconsider this ill-conceived trip.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:15 PM
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25. Very nice!
Thanks!

david
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:50 PM
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31. Didn't George W. deny CA funds that may have prevented fire?
Specifically the fires of October 2003? At least that is what I recalled hearing (and reading) during those fires. That Gray Davis had asked for funding because the areas were at extreme risk for fire and he asked and was denied by Bush. How many Californians' lost their homes to that fire?

If I am not remembering correctly, someone please correct me.

I am not at all comfortable with the idea of him campaigning for someone that is that callous with the interests of California.

What is Schwarzenegger's business in Ohio?
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:59 PM
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32. In addition to writing and calling the Gov's office...
...should we also put a word out to the media? Has anyone done that yet?

It's so hard for me to call this guy the Gov. so I generally don't. I was totally against the recall and didn't vote for him. I'm still amazed he is in office...

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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:25 PM
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33. Not 100% sure on the fires...
but I *DO* know we won't have to worry about them again, because George Jr. is such a great steward of the environment! We won't have fires anymore cuz he's gonna cut down the trees!

david
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:40 PM
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34. You are correct
As I remember, there was a request for additional early response equipment that was not granted just before the fires.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:35 AM
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35. kick
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vet_against_Bush Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:20 PM
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37. Done, kick, nt
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:25 PM
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38. Done
I did it yesterday (sent e-mail). That groping prick can just stay in California since he was so anxious to be governor in the first place.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:30 PM
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39. Done. When I called, and got through to a live human, I registered
my objection. She responded that he was not going to do this.

HUH?

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 02:54 PM
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41. Arnie doesn't like to tell anyone at the top where he's going
Californians would like to know where he's
going and why. Write: steve.lopez@latimes.com
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:08 PM
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42. Bet they use him on college campuses and wherever young
people gather. I saw on CNN early this a.m. that they were "negotiating" with him to go out and stump. That means Arnold is getting some kind of big pay off.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 03:29 PM
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43. I emailed yesterday long letter
mostly said talked about his promise to be for both sides and that his speech at RNC upset me very much but I let it go and said if he did this I wouldn't let it go!

I am sorry to say I voted for him before I got involved in this campaign and knew the truth of a lot of things that happened here in the state so I was able to say to him that I was one of the dems who voted him in and could easily vote him out if he helped get Bush in.
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