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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:20 AM
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Will BushCo use the news of stolen explosives to prove presence of WMDs
I've been wondering if this story could be twisted to their advantage? The sheeple want to believe those WMDs were there when the US invaded and now the hot media story is about the presence of weapons.

I could see Rove turning this one around (with a few bald-faced lies added for fun) as "proof" that dangerous weapons existed --especially if the media complies (as usual).

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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:23 AM
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1. But weren't they
under UN Control?
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feistydem Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:27 AM
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3. Yes, but I heard a repuke today assert this idea and it made me wonder if
Rove was going to see the opportunity to furthermanipulate the truth.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:24 AM
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2. It would defy all logic and reason to do so
It actually would have made more sense and would have been easier for chimp to claim that the UN was wrong and the 300 tons never existed.
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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:45 AM
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8. Faux News just tried this very laughable thing
Brit Hume - "fair and balanced my ass"...just suggested ;

a. - their reporter "Dana Lewis" ex of NBC news interviewed live from Moscow...he told our friend Brit that we ie NBC reporter and camera man) wandered around Aq-qaa site during their 24-hour stay before moving on to take Baghdad.....did he ssy US Div was asked to inspect the site- no...did he say US forces looked for the 380 tons of VERY high explosive - no.....did he wander around for a few hours with a camera - yes......Brit (FAB) Humes conclusion - NBC/NYT are discredited because Dana and his camera guy didnt find the UN-IAEA sealed explosives in several square miles area of compound/bunkers.

b. Then proceeds to "convince" his "fair and balanced panel" (Kondracke - GOP in sheeps clothing; Liason - GOP in sheeps clothing and Krauthammer - more Kraut than hammer - that he's right and they'd better agree.
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kokomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:28 AM
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4. Already heard some say these munitions were to be used as nuclear triggers
I am sure they will try to spin their failure into a positive, but we need to call them out.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:29 AM
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5. Not that it would matter if bush spun it that way, but
their existence doesn't prove much of anything as far as WMDs.

Oh, maybe it's merely evidence that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction-related program activity motivations, but...
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:40 AM
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7. it proves that while they were in a WMD frenzy, they let..
....tons and tons of conventional weapons go unnoticed into the hands of those who have devoted themselves to killing Americans, most of whom were sooo pleased that the Bush crime family put americans at their doorstep so they don't have to travel to the other side of the world to accomplish their mission...
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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:39 AM
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6. These were identified and cataloged, not hidden
Even if they were WMD -- which they were not - all they prove is that the inspections and sanction regimes were containng Saddam just fine.
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Hot Water Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 12:53 AM
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9. The explosives were only the components
that could be used in the completion of activating nuclear weapons. That's why it's so mind boggling they weren't destroyed or secured.

It's a thousand times worse than saying help yourselves to all the ammonium nitrate in the world.

What's even worse than that, supposedly they were 550 pre designated sites where the weapons of mass destruction were suspected to be. This was specified by the inspectors to be treated as one of the highest concern on the list.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 01:02 AM
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10. Makes it pretty clear that they didn't give a shit about looking for WMD
They knew in advance they didn't have any, so they made a bee line right to the oil fields and the oil ministry. RDX wasn't on the list from the informants, so they just passed it all right up.
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