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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:35 PM
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Poll question: Democratic Primary Candidate Poll
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 07:46 PM by bluestateguy
We have not done a candidate poll for quite awhile, and I think it's time we do another one. Many more people are starting to make up their minds. Some people have changed their candidate preferences. I hope you wll all decide to vote and not turn this into a debate about polls. I also hope some of you will help to keep this thread kicked.

Who is your choice to win the Democratic nomination?
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:37 PM
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1. Clark
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:38 PM
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2. kick
^
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:38 PM
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3. Interesting results.
I wonder what it means?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:52 PM
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19. It means the same thing it always means
The Clark blogs have a direct link to voting for him on every DU poll. And yes it's true. I've seen the links. It's "Freeping" the poll - not that I'm implying the Clark supporters are Freepers, mind you. Just a similar strategy, and NOT one indicative of the actual DU membership.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:57 PM
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24. Respectfully
Could you provide that link to the Clark blog? I spend quite a bit of time there, and I've never seen it.

I personally do not believe there is much concern among the Clark campaign regarding a blogger's poll on DU, but if I'm wrong, I'll certainly stand corrected, and issue a plea to other Clark bloggers not to participate in such actions.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:37 PM
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45. FYI
I did a search of the Clark blog, and the last mention of polling on DU was back in December and November (two occasions). No mention of 'freeping' this poll.

Next?
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. Thank you
I spend great deals of time at the Clark blog, and I thought maybe I was having selective memory issues.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:17 AM
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81. On January 7th, 2004:
http://chat.forclark.com/comments/2004/1/7/134240/9602/42#42
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:16 AM
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80. Here's your links. A DU member admits advertising poll on Clarks blog
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=75797#77006

And here's the blog entry:

http://chat.forclark.com/comments/2004/1/7/134240/9602/42#42

(#42) (Rated 5.00/1)
by jerseyshore (Jerseyshore@clark,com) on 01/07/2004 02:07:42 PM EST
Reply

DU Members Only Vote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=75 797
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:07 PM
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105. Where's the admittal and plea to other Clark bloggers you promised?
You got my pm (thanks for the acknowledgement) so where's the rest?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:18 PM
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34. What difference does it make?
If Dean has the supporters in the primaries, why does it matter to you how a DU poll turns out? This poll isn't legally binding by any stretch of the imagination.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:30 PM
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42. At least the Clark blog actually ACKNOWLEDGES DU
The only references anywhere on Dean's site or blog is a few posts in the forums. Mostly by DU members.

The Clark blog actually has a prominent link on the left hand side of the front page.

Maybe the Dean camp should accept that DU actually exists.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:46 PM
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64. Never seen anything like that. Post a link next time..
n/t
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:18 AM
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82. Here's the link you requested:
http://chat.forclark.com/comments/2004/1/7/134240/9602/42#42
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:18 PM
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139. By golly - guess you're right. I don't know how often they do that.....
n/t
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:32 AM
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87. If only members of DU can vote in the polls here,
which is the case, and we can each only vote once, then how is it "freeping" for DU members to vote in a DU poll? Since only members of DU can vote in these polls, then how are the results not "indicative of the actual DU membership"?

This accusation gets thrown around a lot (every time there is a poll), but I can't quite understand it.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:41 PM
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97. It means this place has become what we all knew it was becoming.
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 12:41 PM by edzontar
To my colleagues in the Clark camp--a hearty well-done.

The board is now yours.

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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:36 PM
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112. It is an interesting turn of events
I remember back early on in the primary this board solidly backed Dean as a whole (he usually got well over 50% in polls like these). Even after Clark was drafted and announced there was not much excitement here about him until one day when it seemed like it just shifted.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:56 AM
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129. It's possible that Dean supporters spend more time in GD, less in GD2004
I'm a Kucinich/Dean supporter interested in many issues and on late-breaking news. I haven't visited the GD2004 section in at least a month, but I'm in GD & LBN every day.

Perhaps the split between GD and GD2004 has skewed the polls depending on which people are mostly interested in the primaries and which people are more interested in other issues.

I don't know; it's just a hypothesis.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:03 PM
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134. There is a fair amount of orchestration going on...
Edited on Sat Jan-17-04 02:04 PM by edzontar
From certain campaign blogs.

Thus the off-kilter results here.
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:38 PM
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4. I hope Skinner does another 'official'
straw poll after IA and NH. It will be interesting to see how the outcomes of those races affect the dynamics here.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:39 PM
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5. commander in chief general clark
whoot! =)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:41 PM
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:50 PM
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16. ya but then your saying commander twice
doesnt work very well =)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:39 PM
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:39 PM
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7. Okay, what's going on......
Clark got 14 votes in 30 seconds. Either the Clark supporters are trolling votes from another board, or the Dean supporters are pulling a prank by voting for Clark.

:beer:
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:41 PM
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10. The DU version of Flash Mob perhaps
who knows...
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:46 PM
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12. It's odd but I have no idea
I can tell you that it hasn't been referenced on the Clark blog because I've been there on every thread this PM and there is no mention of this poll. Now the official DU straw polls do often generate a post or 2 on the Clark blog.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:57 PM
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22. It looks like the results are
beginning to even out. :shrug:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:05 PM
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31. hmmm
you may be on to something :)
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:05 PM
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51. I thought the Dean supporters prank by voting for Lieberman
;)
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retyred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:55 PM
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68. It's not a prank
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 10:55 PM by retyred
they really want Clark to win but are afraid to admit it openly {/humor}


retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”

So I read this book
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BobbyJay Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:41 PM
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8. Clark
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:44 PM
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11. What's the question?
Who will I vote for, who do I prefer, or who will win?

Three different factors.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:47 PM
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13. Wes is best!
:bounce:
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:48 PM
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14. Kick
:kick:
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:49 PM
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15. Don't know.
Was for Clark, but now undecided.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:40 PM
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55.  What made you think of changing your mind? n/t
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Closer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:51 PM
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17. While it's amusing to vote in these polls
they shouldn't be taken as an accurate reading of how Democrats across the nation feel.


A large majority of Dean supporters have left DU in recent weeks and months, so he won't get many votes here anymore.
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. I can vouch for that.
Literally hundreds. ;)
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BobbyJay Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:54 PM
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20. Apparently many Dean supporters have left Iowa too
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
32. I wouldn't bet this month's rent on that.
You may be quite surprised come Monday night.
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BobbyJay Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #32
35. You like Dean? He DOESN'T support gay marriage.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:40 AM
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93. Hmmm...
As I read Cuban_liberal's statement, he makes no endorsement of Dean at all; rather, he simply admonishes you to not wager that Dean won't win Iowa. :)
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #35
113. Can you provide a link for that?
I mean, that is quite a statement. Here is a guy who signed the first civil union bill in the United States as governor and you are saying "he DOESN'T support gay marriage." Surely you can see the need to back that statement up.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
60. LOL
:D
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:42 PM
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56. Where'd they go?
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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #56
114. They've moved on because this board has largely become poison
Kudos to the Mods for trying to remedy that now, but I fear it might be too little too late.

Incidentally, many Dean supporters ARE still active posters in DU, they just never visit the GD: 2004 Primary Board because they don't like the tone and rhetoric. Thus when you put a poll like this up on this board it does not accurately reflect Dean's support. Try a poll like this in Politics & Campaigns and I bet you would get a significantly different response.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #17
62. That and there are a lot of people here who refuse to vote in these polls
especially since the freeping incidents.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #62
98. I personally know many Dean supporters who have left
Most of them will never come back, or so they say.

I still hang around, but mostly out of stubborness amd morbid curiosity.

This is the not the place we used to love, that is for sure.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:55 PM
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21. Edwards.
My vote is for Edwards.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:57 PM
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23. Dean's losing support
Apparently Dean is even losing support at DU.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:00 PM
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25. DU's losing support, not Dean
Not surprisingly, many many Dean supporters have left DU recently

Any many of us (me included) don't vote in these polls.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:03 PM
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:12 PM
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59. Nope, I live in a beautiful town, thanks
Yes Dean has slipped a bit in the polls, but that's entirely normal. I don't mind a bit of lowered expectations, in any case.

Just watch. Heh. :evilgrin:
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:00 PM
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26. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions
based on an unofficial straw poll basically hidden and floating around in only one forum. You'd have to have a more prominent and pinned Skinner poll and allow several days to elapse before making any kinds of judgments.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #23
61. Yet were still going to win,
what's your strategic move?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:14 AM
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79. Looks like Edwards is getting some of that support.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:44 PM
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:01 PM
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27. Wesley Clark of course!
eom
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:02 PM
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28. Clark n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:04 PM
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30. At only 100 votes, this poll doesn't mean something yet.
When/if it hits 250, I'll pay attention. Until then, GO WES.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #30
58. now 203
gettin there =)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:51 PM
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72. It just hit 250, now pay attention.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:25 PM
Response to Reply #30
100. 355
Valid yet?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #30
163. 500
maybe clark break 200 =)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:39 PM
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173. clark break 200 yay =)
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 10:39 PM by meow mix
kick!
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ByRillYAN Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:08 PM
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33. Kucinich
he's electalbe if you vote for him.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #33
63. Welcome to DU
and team Kucinich. I have welcomed a bunch of new K supporters the last few days. Glad you are here.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:22 PM
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36. What's the point of this?
http://campaign.forclark.com/story/2004/1/13/0147/96985
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:27 PM
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38. What's the point of the question?
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. Just questioning the neccessity of compromised non-scientific polls.
Someone must not like the real poll numbers.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. That was posted yesterday.
This poll was posted today. What's your point?
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #43
47. These polls should have a disclaimer.
May contain plants.

It's only fair otherwise someone new to DU who supports another candidate might be driven away by the strong Clark support.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. Can't every campaigns supporters recommend DU?
You can invite from the Dean blog.
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hellhathnofury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. That appears to be at least a mimic of an official campaign notice...
if not the real thing.

Where do you draw the line? Buy ad time on Clark's site.

I don't thing you should be aggressively flooding DU with your supporters. Furthermore, the polls almost always seem to be created by Clark supporters. I wonder why?
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BobbyJay Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Yes, that has a TON to do with this thread.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:24 PM
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37. Still Dean
Same as last time.
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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:28 PM
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40. Clark's making his move!
Feb. 3rd will be a great day.



:dem:


Florida for Clark!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:33 PM
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44. Clark.
Go, Wes!
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:37 PM
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46. Clark
as always :-)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:06 PM
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52. As a Clark supporter, I find this poll quite distressing
If Clark stands at ~40% of this site's poll then I'm not sure I'm in the right forum. Maybe Clark folks are just of a tougher brand, or maybe it's just posted at the hour in which more of his people are on the net. But if the population at DU is really this much slanted in favor of Clark, I almost feel like I ought to move on and spend more time at websites where non-Clark folks do dwell. Not that I'm trying to assume a missionary position on the internet or anything. I'd simply like to "spread the word" is all.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:54 PM
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65. Interesting point, Bucky
Very interesting.
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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:59 PM
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69. So what you're saying is
that your work here is done, Bucky? LOL
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:28 PM
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53. kick
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:37 PM
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54. still Clark
probably even more so lately. Its not so much about the other candidates as it is about Clark and his ability to restore us to sanity after so much bush propaganda and a somewhat ill informed public. I think he can restore us back to the proper priorities domestically and in the world. Transparency, trust and a return back to American principles of self determination and honor. A return to our better nature.
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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:43 PM
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57. Gephardt dammit!
Take the blindfold off your eyes, people! Gephardt is the only one of the big 5 who has criticized NAFTA since the early 90s!! Gephardt is a social and economic progressive. Sure, he was pro-war; but Dean's record as governor of Vermont is centrist in pretty much every regard.

Where are the other two Gep voters? If you voted for Gep please tell me and get a Geppie icon so we can recognize each others and build a pro-Gep movement on DU to counter this Clark and Dean stuff.
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dnbmathguy Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:04 PM
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111. I'm #6
n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:54 PM
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66. Kick
Vote! Make yourself heard!!!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:54 PM
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67. Whoa! Clark is surging!
This isn't a horse race anymore; it's a cakewalk! :D


GOOOOOOO GENERAL CLARK!!!!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:37 PM
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70. vote
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:49 PM
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71. vote
We need to keep this kicked through the morning.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:58 PM
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73. Still Clark for me
and no, I didn't "freep" the poll, didn't find out about it from the Clark blog, and did not come to DU to "infiltrate".
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:06 AM
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74. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:22 AM
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75. Kick
Vote :bounce:
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F-5 Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:24 AM
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76. Kucinich.
:)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:31 PM
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103. Welcome to DU!
:hi:

Love your sig line! :)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:49 AM
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77. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:06 AM
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78. kick
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:42 AM
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83. I know that this poll is less
representative than an 'official' Skinner straw poll but it's pretty clear the Kerry and Edwards numbers have climbed from the last few that I've seen. Pretty interesting.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:34 AM
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84. kick
:kick:
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:23 AM
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85. Patada!
:kick:
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:25 AM
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86. I'm a boomer, I've changed candidates four times, Gep is my guy n/t
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 04:55 PM
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148. Good for you...that proves you're
a real thinker!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:08 AM
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88. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:02 AM
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89. kick
:kick:
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:15 AM
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90. Recording my vote for Clark
eom
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:26 AM
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91. kick
Kick before I head off to work...
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:27 AM
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92. kick
:kick:
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copithorne Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:43 AM
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94. Kick
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:24 PM
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95. kick
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:35 PM
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96. Dean (n/t)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:39 PM
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99. kick
:kick:
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OBrien Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:25 PM
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101. Take a look at American Son
It is excellant and could sway a lot of people. Genuine and beautifully done.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 05:00 PM
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149. I saw it twice
and would love to see it again. Very moving.
Brought tears and warm and fuzzy feelings.
Makes you feel patriotic to endorse him.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:26 PM
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102. Man, Kerry and Edwards support has jumped here too
:-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:13 PM
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107. and arent those your two faves
Glad to see them on fire as of late. Keep it up. I really like them too.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:46 PM
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104. Clark's 15 point lead is holding
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:11 PM
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106. Please vote
we needed a new poll
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 03:37 PM
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108. kick
VOTE!!!!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:19 PM
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109. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:59 PM
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110. kick
:kick:
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Android Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 05:52 PM
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116. Dean.
:D
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:15 PM
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117. President Howard Dean, of course! (nt)
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:17 PM
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118. Clark is hot, hot, hot!
Can't wait for the New Hampshire primary! :D
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:25 PM
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119. Edwards, because I sense that he is our best chance
against bush. And that is my one and only criterion.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:34 PM
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120. 400!
vote
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:35 PM
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121. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:58 PM
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122. kick
:kick:
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:32 PM
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123. kick, just so bluestateguy doesn't have to do it again....
;)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:45 PM
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124. kick
:kick:
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:51 PM
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125. go Clark!
he's got my vote!
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:54 PM
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126. how can you not elect a guy that looks like this?
scroll to the bottom photo!

http://www.robinervolina.com/wes
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:18 PM
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142. laura888?
or is it w_o_a_w_f?
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:12 PM
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127. kick!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:43 PM
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128. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 03:09 AM
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130. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 04:44 AM
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131. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:55 AM
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132. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:51 PM
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133. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 04:19 PM
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135. kick
..and vote.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 05:26 PM
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136. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 06:25 PM
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137. kick
:kick:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:07 PM
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138. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 09:51 PM
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140. kick
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:50 PM
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141. small Lieberman surge
6%. That's as high as I have seen him on a DU poll.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 03:28 PM
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147. Hmm..
true..that's different..
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:42 PM
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143. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 01:52 AM
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144. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 09:33 AM
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145. kick
kick
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 03:24 PM
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146. kick
:kick:

:kick:
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 05:06 PM
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150. Hmm...what US polls reflect this poll?
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 05:06 PM by Terwilliger
The other question is, why does a website that consistently used to Vote Dean #1 and Kucinich #2 now consistently have votes where the vote total is very high for Clark. Did all the Kucinich supporters jump on the Clark bandwagon? Or is there some sort of bias?

It's a legitimate question.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 05:20 PM
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151. Yikes. No offense but...
... there is a very good chance that it is a legitimate poll of the position of DUers. As to the reasons, I would speculate that there is a heart-oriented bias toward Kucinich but a much greater head-oriented bias toward Clark.

Once you watch and read a lot of what Clark has to say though, he often wins both heart and head. At least that's the way it is with me. We are incredibly lucky to have him on our side, whether he wins the nomination or not.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 05:35 PM
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152. Damn it
Who forgot to beep me? I am on call 24 hours a day to vote in these polls for Clark. Somebody is going to get fired. I have to find about these polls on my own? Clark supporters we need to organize better, if we are going to win these polls by greater margins. ;)

I am a Clark supporter who has been a member of DU for over two years in a brillant stradegy to vote in Clark polls in GD: 2004 Primary forum. ;)
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:02 PM
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153. CLARK!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:42 PM
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154. kick
:kick:
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 06:49 PM
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155. Why would more people vote for Lieberman than Gephardt?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 07:33 PM
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156. kick
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 08:15 PM
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157. Kick! DU and America still loves Clark
Go Wes!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 08:33 PM
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158. kick
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:42 PM
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159. Hey, no fair
All the Dean supporters are on their cell phones calling Iowans.

Except me, with my 100 minute, no long distance ancient cell phone and plan. (I wrote 20 more letters to North Dakota Dems instead; we've got our caucuses Feb. 3).
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kayleybeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:56 PM
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160. Go Wes Go!
-eom-
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:31 PM
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161. kick
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:42 PM
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162. Go Joe! n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:37 AM
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164. kick
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:14 AM
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165. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 03:51 AM
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166. kick
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 06:02 AM
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167. kick
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:36 PM
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168. kick
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Clark Can WIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 04:10 PM
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169. I've stuck with Clark for the same reasons that attracted me in the first
place. He's inspiring, he's brilliant (more like uber-brilliant or hyper-intelligent) he's had the experience to back up the comments he's made about Bush and the war in Iraq, he has very comperable and impressive domestic experience with domestic programs he championed in the service, he's led his whole life on the principles of duty, honor and country. Clark is a non-politician with the ability to excite and bring in new voters as well as providing a safe harbor for dissaffected independents and others.

Plus, he hugged me. OK, I would have voted for him anyway, but it didn't hurt anything.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 04:11 PM
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170. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:34 PM
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171. kick
:kick:

VOTE!
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:38 PM
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172. THIS isn't 'abusive kicking' ? -nt-
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 01:48 AM
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174. kick
:kick:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 04:22 AM
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175. kick
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