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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:30 PM
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Did Bush say he supports gay marriage on Charlie Gibson?
A friend just called and said she heard this on the radio coming home. Does anyone know anything about this?
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:31 PM
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1. he said he supports civil unions and that the RNC platform is wrong
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:40 PM
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6. I saw where he said he supported civil unions, and the clear inplication
from that statement is that the platform (and the Consitutional amendment) are wrong, but I did not see where Bush said that the platform was wrong. Did I miss it?
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:42 PM
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8. He said (re: platform) "Well, I disagree!"
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:44 PM
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10. On last night's Daily Show
when Bush was talking about agreeing that gay's should have the same rights as others (civil union rights) the interviewer then said that the GOP platform was opposed to it. Bush said "yes" he knew that. Then the interviewer asked: "So you diasgree with the platform?" bush said: "Yes."

Then Jon Stewart made a comment how of course the president has no say in the GOP platform for his campaign.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:56 AM
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13. unbelievable
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:00 AM
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14. Gottal love John! - Bush: I don't agree with my platform
I just let them pimp me. heh heh... heh heh.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:32 PM
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2. Said he support civil unions showing once again who the REAL flipflopper
is.
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:37 PM
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5. That is what I thought
I heard that on the Daily Show last night. But this person seems to think she heard Gibson ask Shrub outright: "So do you support gay marriage?" and he said "yes". I am wondering if she really heard "civil unions" and got it mixed up.

Has there been any freeper fallout from this? That is a huge flip flop. They must really be getting desperate.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:46 PM
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11. The freep thread was mainly an exercise in killing the messenger
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 07:05 PM by undisclosedlocation
and calling each other trolls. In their more, uh, reasoned moments, if I can call it that, they claimed that he was just saying that the matter is for the states to decide, (therefore in their pointy little heads a state's rights matter and thus ok) and that as governor of Texas he would have opposed them. Whether he actually said any of this, I have no idea. I didn't watch the show or look at the transcript. I'll give you the link to the FR thread on edit momentarily.

Edit:
Here's the thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257188/posts
Original poster was banned or suspended; what was I saying about killing the messenger?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:35 PM
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3. Bush supports gay marriage to Charlie Gibson.
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:36 PM
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4. But that was yesterday
Maybe today he has changed his mind.

And he can change it again on the weekend. :+
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:41 PM
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7. Political Answer: YES YES YES and YES
And I'm delighted they are saying so on the radio.

(What he really said was he doesn't oppose gay civil unions, but no need to get bogged down in the minutiae.)
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Jimmy D Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:43 PM
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9. Someone with posting privilege should post this on freeper site
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:55 PM
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12. not quite

He said he *personally* supports there being "rights" and such on a state level, iow what's being called civil unions. Threw up a lot of dust and obfuscating verbiage around it.

Relevant facts
-this is appeal-to-conservative-Democrats week in their campaign.
-Good Morning America basically has an elderly, heavily female, viewership
-women favor gay rights more than men do, especially among the elderly
-gay civil unions have ~65% voter agreement, gay marriage ~30% (it's mainstream now)
-the Mary Cheney flap created some cover with Bush's right wing (not much, but some)
-Charles Gibson just gaped at the obvious shift in appearances
-W obfuscated about the GMA and the rest (DoMA, MPA)
-W absolutely avoided the words "marriage" and "civil unions"
-it was all about projecting an attitude, not promising anything in particular
-W pretends to Cheney's line of making it a state level matter

Republican responses yesterday: horrified outrage at the grassroots level in anti-marriage groups and organizations. Absolute and eerie silence on the subject from Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, James Kennedy, James Dobson, Bob Jones, Oral Roberts, the LDS leadership, the SBC, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly etc down the line.

It was clear this summer that by 2006 there will be national majorities (thus, consensus) for gay marriage. So the Republican Party line was always built with a pile of fallback positions and always about exploiting the suckers and fools who get worked up about it, not about realistically holding it up for long.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:07 AM
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15. This Is Unbelievable!
Bush Says we must have a constitutional amendment banning gay marriages so individual states can't approve? And he's now for state rights on the gay issue in the campaign without federal interference? Michael Savage is savaging Bush for his flip flop.

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