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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:58 AM
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I Can't Wait for Iowa to be OVER
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 11:59 AM by Jack_Dawson
I'm so over Iowa. Every day a new "leader" emerges and frankly I think way too much attention is paid to this tiny state. I've been there and enjoyed it for the most part, but enough already. Come Tuesday we'll know if Gebhardt is still running for Prez, if Kerry's momentum has legs, if Dean's two-year campaign paid off and if Edwards should be taken seriously.

I'm very tired of the speculation, and quite ready for things to start shaking out.

And for Lieberman to go away once and for all. My $.02 - thanks for letting me vent.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:02 PM
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1. I agree
I wish I could go to sleep and wake up on Super Tuesday.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:03 PM
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2. I for one would like to be...
Put in a time machine & let out at the Convention. This is going to be one weird primary season. I would like to just stay out of it, of course I am a deer looking into the headlights & can't stop
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:11 PM
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3. I am ready for a break
I wonder if the polls are that close or are they a ratings tool to keep people watching.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:15 PM
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5. I think I little of both
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:17 PM
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6. Very good point!
I find this very sudden Kerry rise a bit suspect, frankly. I studied in Iowa undergrad, lived there, and have extended family from Iowa--good Dems. I find it VERY hard to believe that a guy like Kerry would have much support in that state.
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:22 PM
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9. Kerry is a good fit for eastern Iowa
West third of Iowa is very Conservative,
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:59 PM
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20. I don't see Kerry as a good fit for midwesterners at all,
regardless.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:13 PM
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4. Well, I think Iowa is important.
Like it or not, it is the first official contest in the primary season.
That being said, I can't wait for Iowa to be over either. The suspense is killing me.:)
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:19 PM
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7. We may support different candidates, but
I couldn't agree more. The whole thing is starting to make me physically ill. And if I'm already this much of a wreck over it before the first primary, I have no idea how I'm going to survive until November. I'm hoping for a 10-month coma, personally.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:20 PM
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8. Hey, don't put down Iowa.
Iowans are delightful midwesterners who live in the middle of our country. They have and have had, consistently, the best public education in the nation.
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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:24 PM
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11. You can reply anytime
Thanks
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:51 PM
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32. thanks for noticing!
we do have great education here. We don't and won't see these candidates until four years from now - so don't complain for those who do. Iowa pretty much gets ignored other than for the caucuses.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:07 PM
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35. No problem. Iowa holds some great memories for me.
:-)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:24 PM
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10. I'm readt for it to end
too. I am anxious to see what happenes inbetween Iowa and NH. I may have an ulcer by the time this is over! Lieberman needs to go. He's sounding more and more like Zell Miller.

Be sure to watch the caucuses in action on C-SPAN Monday...LIVE! Should be fun.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:24 PM
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12. please, if i may ask what you think will change?
NH will be polled relentlessly, the media will exploit whatever hot stories they can, the contest continues just the same except clark will be in the mix. i don't see that much will actually change here either except some people will actually have some basis for gloating and others will be more despondent.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:25 PM
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13. Must be nice to sit back and watch form the sidelines
looks like the General ran from the real ground war ;)
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:55 PM
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15. Not So
This is just a skirmish...

The General is gearing up for the war.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:21 PM
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25. He is rallying his troops
for a really ballsy campaign.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:56 PM
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16. Generals Pick Their Battles
You can't enter every skirmish when you've only been running for three months.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:03 PM
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21. The General may be wise
but it's a strategy that's been tried before - and not worked. We'll see if it serves him well.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:21 PM
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26. Generals pick their battles and their weapons.
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 01:26 PM by janx
They fight hard and win.
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:59 PM
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19. The General is dug in now in N.H.....
To move uphill against a defensive position is one of the most difficult Military Maneuvers....

But you'll find that out soon enough.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:18 PM
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23. Now there you go forgetting
that Dean already has a large presence in NH. When he goes back there after Iowa, it might be less difficult than you think. :7
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:22 PM
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27. Yes, we all know that military maneuvers are important.
He's dug in all right--in a foxhole in NH, eh?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:55 PM
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34. Clark could be ambushed in NH if Kerry drops a cluster bomb on Iowa
:shrug:
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:44 PM
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28. Perhaps he was smart to flee the battle ground in Iowa
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 02:10 PM by Cheswick
Retreat in the face of defeat is sometimes the best military strategy.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:51 PM
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31. But the question is, will he retreat from the NH debate?
Will he effectively pull his flanks back and refuse to debate?
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:09 PM
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36. Looking forward to the Manchester debate
There are Clark debate-watch parties planned everywhere. Clark should be the victim of many lame attacks that night I'm guessing...
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:12 PM
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38. Perhaps, but I think that whoever wins Iowa will be attacked the most.
n/t
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:29 PM
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14. disagree
the next three days are what its all about
its so exciting that i may have to go there
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:57 PM
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17. Right
If you are really a political junkie, you are loving this..

I know I am!

This is really exciting & we only get this every 4 years, so enjoy.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:05 PM
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22. Exactly... things change minute by minute
In Iowa you not only need a strategy but the tactics to make it come to fruition. It is a real test of a campaign. I think all campaigns that emerge from Iowa, whether victorious or not, are better. If a campaign can't continue past Iowa, it would never have survived the GE.

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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:59 PM
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18. I agree about Lieberman
He should just go away...
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:20 PM
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24. I agree totally.
I'm soooooo sick of the ugliness and negativity of the campaigns. I wish the anger and nastiness would be directed at our regime where it belongs.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:45 PM
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29. We are on to Michael Jackson, but I do believe that turnout in
Iowa might be an indicator of turnout in '04, so we are going to use the hors d'oeuvre plate we got for Christmas and make up some smoked mullet dip on crackers and sit back and watch it. I believe someone said about 60,000 turned out in year 2000, out of 1/2 million democrats (correct me if I am wrong). To me that means a bunch of Democrats were all fat, employed, happy, renting a video instead of turning out for an election event in the year aught-aught or ought, etc. If we have a stampede of people including young people (You go, young people!) to the caucuses it may be a harbinger of things to come. How many hoary-headed old GOP farts will have croaked off in the intervening 4 years? I am 57 and I am looking toward the younger generation to save us from these mean repubs. A RW woman wrote the local paper that it is a lie that jobs have been lost since Boy Georgie, that labor statistics show that 7 million more people have jobs now than in 1999. Well, I ask her how many people have been graduated from high school and college that can not find a job? Time is on our side. I am just waiting for these mean old farts to die off. Is that sad? Oh, well... I am living down here in the South with a nest of religious nutcases on every side. Forgive me.
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:49 PM
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30. this Iowan
is ready for it to be over as well.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:52 PM
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33. What is it like there now?
Update, please!

Are there hoardes of people coming into the state?
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jadesfire Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:23 PM
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40. tired of the phone calls?
I know i would be...
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:11 PM
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37. I'm tired of the whole thing - I hope the field narrows to one SOON
Then we can all get behind him and direct our power where it needs to be directed - at BUSH!!!

If this infighting drags on until the convention in the summer, we will be doomed. That USELESS Terry McAuliffe will do nothing to unify the party, however, just sit by and watch it happen.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:29 PM
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41. bad news, good news
"If this infighting drags on until the convention in the summer, we will be doomed."

The bad news is that infighting will likely drag on until convention.
The good news is that we will not be doomed.
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Shirley_U_Geste Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:18 PM
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39. As an Iowan I agree
It must be close, because the ads are going at such a fevered pitch I don't know how the TV stations will manage to find the space to advertise breakfast cereal. Seriously, I bet the candidates have even bought all the ad spots for saturday morning cartoons.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 04:41 PM
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42. Iowa is only the beginning
Just wait until Super Tuesday when we have eight or nine HUGE states voting on the same day. Now that will be stressful, especially if we have no clear front-runner.
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IowaBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:11 PM
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43. Very Hurt
I think Iowa is a great state, and it's not that tiny.

Plus, you have to be really good at answering the phone here right now, and staying out of the way of the network busses.

It's not easy, you know.

--Brian
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:13 PM
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44. I totally agree.
Plus, I want to see Clark in action again. He's been on the news but the main focus has been on Iowa candidates.
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:44 PM
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45. I want Clark to break Lieberman over his knee
I can't stand to even look at the guy. Lemme at him.
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