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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:42 AM
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Ralph-What Went Wrong?
The independent candidate who helped swing the 2000 election to Bush isn't much of a factor this time. Among 1,573 likely voters, he was backed by 9.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:44 AM
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1. Bill Maher said on his show the other night he voted for Nader in 2000
And he and Michael Moore were on their knees to him a while ago on one of his shows begging him to drop out.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:52 AM
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9. He has the "doll" vote wrapped up. Barbie is undecided.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:44 AM
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2. It sure went right for us. Badnarik will get more votes than Nader I bet.
And they'll all be from Bush!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:46 AM
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3. What went right?
He was backed by the gop, he and his message are tired and not practical, He is seen as a spoiler and a has been. Just exactly what has this clown accomplished in the last 20 years anyway? Who pays his bills?
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:48 AM
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4. Well then, he should be no threat to Kerry whatsoever
right?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:49 AM
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5. the ralphy 9 - massive ego must now be in crisis
haha
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:50 AM
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6. The saddest thing (for him)

is that both his ego and his plan to build a real third party will be horribly crushed in 36 hours.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:50 AM
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8. His Goal Is To See If He Can Top Buchanan's .05%
nt
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:50 AM
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7. That's 0.57%, or one out of every 175 voters
More people like convenience store greasy hot dogs than vote for Ralph Nader!
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:55 AM
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10. Yeah, but watch...
There will be some sort of political skullduggery from the Bush team where it looks like he beats Kerry in a battleground state by those 9 votes. :)

Just kidding!

TlalocW
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:07 AM
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11. don't beat on him too hard

I think the key event of his campaign was the rejection by the Green Party in late June.
After that I think he understood that times had changed. I think it thwarted his egotistical
ambitions and was a return to integrity by the Green Party- away from the power lust of
the 2000 campaign.

The Reform Party label is, in my opinion, closer to what he really is: an economic populist
and social moderate. It's also why he asked Dean for VP consideration and walked into
the Presidential race when Dean dropped out.

But I think June/July made Ralph more honest. The real Greens went over to Kerry during
the year and he was left with his Third Party-voting, Republican-leaning, conservative
Arab-American supporters. That's who he was talking about in March when he said he
took more from Republicans than Democrats. And now I think he's pulled away from
just about any policy position that would draw liberal support and has focussed on just
this support group. He'll get some 'protest' votes from the politically confused and
silly, but drawing about 1.3 million mostly conservative Arab-American votes away from
siding in a Culture War and referendum on a corrupt conservative Establishment is a
partial redemption.

Of course he can't say any such thing out in the open. But we can live with the effect
and occasional odd, fulminating, critique from him. He's trying to redeem himself in
the same way Pat Buchanan did (which was killing off the Reform Party in 2000).

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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:22 AM
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12. naw, beat him hard

i swear that if i met him in person it would be hard not to spit.

what a pathetic sack of shit.

rcm
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