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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:26 AM
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Is Quinnipac a good pollster? They have * up 8 points in FL

Just when I thought Kerry was looking very well in Florida comes this poll: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x13769.xml

No internals whatsoever... in particular, no way to know if they're oversampling pukes, though I'm sure they are.

I would appreciate some input about quinnipac specifically. I know that all polls are crap and such.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:27 AM
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1. good poll= K up; bad poll= K down; Quinnipiac= bad poll
:)
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:29 AM
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2. they seem to be off the mark a lot
in this election. i think this is the same group that's had new jersey tied at times.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:33 AM
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3. These are Likely Voter models
Which are prone to alot of swing...I wouldn't worry about it...reports so far are of very high turnout!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:38 AM
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4. It's Likely An Outlier.....
There's nine or ten polling organizations polling Florida and the average is a 1% lead for the chimp...

It's funny...

CBS did a poll last week that showed Kerry with a nine point lead in Florida... They spiked it because the results didn't look right compared to other polls and they didn't want to affect the election with a bogus poll...

Quinnipac shows no such compunction...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:48 AM
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8. wow
Bush's lead in the Florida's poll of polls was 1% at

www.realcleapolitics.com


Now the poll of poll leads in 2.2%

Meaningless trivia but the median lead would make for a better representation...
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:44 AM
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5. HMMMMM. Fe Fi Fo Fum I smell a
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:47 AM
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6. Yep I smell that smell also
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:47 AM
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7. I've never seen quinnipiac ever have
a poll with Kerry ahead.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:52 AM
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9. Funny...
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 10:52 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Zobgy,Insider Advantage ,Gallup and Quinnipac are polling the same people* at the same time and coming to dramatically different conclusions..


One of those organizations is going to look like a klutz...

I hope it's Quinnipac
Florida ( 27 Electoral Votes)
>> Results from 2000 Election: Bush 48.9, Gore 48.8, Nader 1.6 (Bush +0.1)
Poll | Date Sample MoE Bush Kerry Nader Spread
RCP Average | 10/27-10/31 - - 48.7 46.5 1.0 Bush +2.2
Insdr Adv | 10/29-31 400 LV 5.0 48 48 1 TIE
Zogby | 10/28-10/31 601 LV 4.1 47 48 - Kerry +1
Quinnipiac | 10/27-31 1098 LV 3.0 51 43 1 Bush +8
CNN/USAT/Gallup | 10/28-30* 1138 LV 4.1 47 50 - Kerry +3
Mason-Dixon | 10/27-29 625 LV 4.0 49 45 - Bush +4
Rasmussen | 10/27 500 LV 4.0 50 45 - Bush +5


*same universe of voters


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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:54 AM
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10. It does look like an outlier

Rasmussen is showing a much closer race in his inside polls. And Mason-Dixon routinely overamples repukes.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:59 AM
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12. State polling wise they are pretty good
I would take this as not great news from Florida.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:02 AM
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13. I couldn't disgaree more strongly...
Gallup. Insider Advantage, and Zogby are polling the same universe of voters at the same time...


A dispassionate observer would be forced to conclude that Quinnipac is the outlier...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:04 AM
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14. I couldn't disgaree more strongly...
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:05 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Gallup. Insider Advantage, and Zogby are polling the same universe of voters at the same time and coming up with dramatically different results....


A dispassionate observer would be forced to conclude that Quinnipac is the outlier...
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:54 AM
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11. DU this poll!
http://www.wtap.com/

Sorry to post this here, but I don't have the priveleges yet to post new threads. This is a local Ohio station that covers the entire southeast quadrant of the state, plus a populous chunk of WVA. I used to live here, and it's killing me their current poll results.
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