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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:46 PM
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Anyone catch Carville on NPR show, Waddya know?
A bartcopper just reported that Carville said that Clark hasn't gotten the full body search yet, and that Dean doesn't have the discipline it takes.

Can anyone add about what else he said?
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:53 PM
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1. Carville no longer speaks for me


At one time, he had my utmost respect, but, as the communicator he's always been, he shouldn't be singling out any democratic candidate to belittle. He doesn't like Dean, pure and simple. :boring: :boring:
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:59 PM
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4. Extremely disappointing
I think in many ways he's a very smart man, and funny. But to be singling out a man he might have to be supporting soon for PUBLIC criticism like that was a very bad move. Whats he gonna do if Dean is nominated... sit this one out???? It just makes no sense.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:38 PM
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8. Carville has really disappointed me in some of his statements about
Dean and Clark. What's goin' on w/ this guy? Who is his candidate? I have NO idea.
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Zinnola Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:56 PM
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2. Carville is now a corporate whore
I have lost all respect for him also. :boring: :boring: :thumbsdown:
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:57 PM
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3. I have no use for Carville.
Edited on Sat Jan-17-04 01:02 PM by Padraig18
He's just another has-been...

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Eccho Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:21 PM
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5. I caught most of it
I didn't neccessarily enjoy hearing everything he had to say, but I still think he understands what it takes to win an election. He repeatedly said that there is just too much at stake in this next election to not have a winning strategy. That dems cannot allow themselves to view Bush as invulnerable. That there are plenty of good candidates and that one will emerge who should be able to beat Bush this year.

When asked if he socialized with the Cheney's or Bush, he said that he sees them at office parties, and that they may be nice people, but he would rather write a check for an sob that had good policies.

He got a big laugh when he said that Clark hasn't endured a full body search yet as a candidate. He had a lot of nice things to say about Dean, Kerry, and Edwards.

I think he is about the best dem strategist out there. Just my opinion.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:34 PM
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7. Thanks for more details.
That's what I was looking for.

Carville is a wise head.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:31 PM
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6. Crossfire ruined both Carville and Begala.
They used to be great for the democratic party, now they are at the mercy of the corporate big wigs who tell them what news they are going to report.

I bet Novakula has seen wonderful pay raises in the last 3 years.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:43 PM
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9. Carville hit his peak
when he was defending Clinton. He obviously feels superfluous and forgotten. He's yesterday's paper - might be interesting to someone who hasn't read it before, but I doubt it.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:17 PM
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10. Carville - one more victim in the invasion of the Corporate snatchers....
Sad....
when I start hearing the cynical, biting words coming from their mouths about how someone cant win, ( someone who has gone from 1% overall approval to now being our FRONTRUNNER mind you***), I know they have been bitten by the corporate vampire, and the D.C. politically appropriate candidate vampire. Whew...thats a mouthful.

Yes. Money either is coming from Carvilles/Begalas mouth now, or total cynicism at the system, or perhaps both.

Ultimately, we cant fully blame these guys. They have been fighters for the good guys, dedicated, passionate people that have fought for what is right in a world like D.C. where that is not valued, appreciated, or moreover TOLERATED, to say the least.

Donahue is another blessed fighter, that because he believed in fairness, his show got yanked. I could go into the Fairness Doctrine, which of course would help remedy alot of this gross abuse and imbalance of rapidly turning fascist sludge shows on t.v., which are promoted, where the objective, closer to being balanced shows are thrown off the air, sent to some crappy time slot by idealogues who claim the ratings are bad.

Thats bullshit. You bet its about ideology.

Just take a look at the latest slap at Democracy where Moveon.org had a paid t.v. spot to go on during the Superbowl, and guess what? CBS said NO. It wasnt about money folks, it was about CONTROL of thought and of perception...it was saying we dont like this much honesty...may make people THINK.

Its the system that is killing us. Its even killing those that are perpetuating it, but the money and all the glittery external stuff keeps them dazzled and distracted while their soul and their conscience move further south.

Thats what I think Howard Dean understands. Dean left New York and glitz and glam and moved to Vermont. Hes seen both worlds and knows where the substance lies, and what is really important in life. Thats what Washington forgets and has forgotten. Thats what the problem is.

It would probably benefit alot of Washingtonians to get away from Washington and smell some fresh air and view another landscape! They are being eaten alive in that town and they dont even know it.

AND we have to fight and defend those of us that have the guts to stand up and fight for the underdog, or heck even now, someone who doesnt make over 200,000 a year!!!
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:31 PM
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11. Well, he's been busy
working with American Corporate White House interests in Venezuela against a democratically elected government can be time consuming.

http://trinicenter.com/cgi-bin/selfnews/viewnews.cgi?newsid1064484379,1455,.shtml

oh, wait "He's one of US".
Who are WE these days anyway?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:39 PM
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12. I don't understand your smear - that article doesn't mention Carville.

Am I missing some hidden connection?

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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 03:05 PM
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17. Carville quote
"I only have one client, that’s some people in Venezuela I work for."
( http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3129932/ )

The link in the post above requires that you read all the articles.
It's quite interesting what we're up to there in Venezuela.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:43 PM
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13. LOL Sunshine!***
Too true.

I swear. Im beginning to think that money is like cocaine. Maybe worse!

hmmm...i think theres a thread idea.

:)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:52 PM
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15. I think you dismiss Carville at your peril
he still knows a lot about getting Dems elected.
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YellowDawgDemocrat Donating Member (181 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:50 PM
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14. Could Carville be one of the guys wanting to see this end up in the
convention's hands? If so, keep enough crap going between all of them and that's where we will be.

I really don't expect it to end up in the hands of the convention. I'm still betting on Dean.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 02:52 PM
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16. What "surprising" responses to this thread!
Marcus Aurelius really had people pegged.
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