So assuming that we win, what happens to Bush

We can't just let him skate off and become an ex-president with all the respect that entails. How do we wipe any positive mention of him from all our history books. I seriously doubt he'll go to prison, but everything he stands for should be repudiated. Is this plausible, or will Bush just go down in history as another decent if not exceptional president.

There is no way our government is going to turn over a former leader of the US to the Hague.

The majority of the public wouldn't agree to it and I imagine that whatever percentage of people vote for Kerry tonight the majority of that percentage just want Bush out of the White House, not arrested.

HOPE that the Democratic start to press charges against him.

I suppose technically…..me thinks the Oval Office will be rather deserted other than the day he comes in to sign his pardons….

That's what I'm calling for!

If we take teh House and the Senate and people want to spent that political capital, google up... Tea Pot Dome...

We had the same thing with King John over here. You know, from Robin Hood?

History's a bitch when you trick your way into power and then misuse it.

He went to China and was a good president despite that little Watergate thing, which was a mistake, because if he'd just let the truth come out America would have found out it had nothing to do with him - or something to that effect.

There's a lot of Nixon revisonism going on at the moment. First Arnie name-checks him at the, frankly terrifying, Republican Convention. Now the Manic Street Street Preachers are doing a tune that purports to practically eulogise him (though I must confess I haven't studied the lyrics yet)

Bush will hopefully be nothing more than a regrettable footnote in your nation's proud history. And maybe a $500,000 question on who wants to be a millionnaire

"Which US President served 4 years without ever winning an election?"

What Nixon did was attempt to subvert the democratic process and then cover it up.

Watergate had EVERYTHING to do with Nixon. If there was no Nixon, there would not have been a Watergate.

school textbooks don't mark him with the "criminal" label even though it fits quite well.

Nixon attempted to subvert the democratic process, but Bush did it.

Nixon attempted to cover up his subversion, but so far Bush has--or would have if Al Gore wouldn't have invented the Internet.

Nixon opened trade channels with China. Bush opened a one-way flow of American jobs to China.

Nixon shut down an unnecessary war in a way that left the people we were fighting against in charge of that country. Bush started an unnecessary war and...well, the people we are fighting against are in charge of that country.

The World Trade Center was completed during the Nixon Administration. It was destroyed during the Bush Administration.

Compared to some of the shit Bush did and is doing, Watergate was jaywalking.

I talk to people every day..."need some cleaner, I say"....."want to make your house smell fresher, I tell em"....."want to make a lot of money in marketing, I explain to em".....your either with me, or against me....what do ya say?.....need some laundry detergent?

welcome to DU btw....

Then there will be plenty of "happenings" all around.

Maybe he can get Milosevic as his cellmate while he awaits his war crimes trial.

.... at a company that he'll promptly run into the ground like all the others.

People like him never get what they deserve. I used to think I'd be satisfied with his name being villified in history books for hundreds of years for his crimes.

But now, after seeing the thousands he's had callously killed, and the future of this country damaged beyond belief....I really want to see him serving his time along side other corrupt, war-mongering dictators.

......Bush will have to live out the rest of his days as a poor black man in Tulia Texas.

Poor black WOMAN.

I give up.... effin' wonnerful!!

I would love to see Kerry "pardon" President Bush. I think some sort of quasi-official policy statement of such magnanimity would cut Bush off at the balls. It's a great way of saying you're guilty of major crimes but I'm not going to burden the American tax payer with the fiscal and emotional costs of prosecuting you.

Then we can throw Rove, Cheney, Perl, Wolfowitz, et. al. into jail.

Of course this would never happen, but boy would I love to see it. How can you fight back when you've been "pardoned?" Bwaaa

That's the first e-mail I'm dashing off to the Kerry presidency. Let's all bombard him with "pardon Bush" e-mails. Of course there should be investigations done, to demonstrate that he did commit numerous crimes.

and writes policy. The guy is a damn spokes-model but Cheyne, Rove, etc. let them go to the hoosegow!

He'd give 'em up for a pardon. He has no loyalty he only expects it from others.

Well, we shouldn't advocate stoning, so don't.

Bush should be convicted and tried (yeah, in that order) in a fair court of OUR peers.

He'll retreat to his ranch in Crawford and drop out of sight. Or at least that's the best scenario for him from his point of view.

To cheer him up, maybe we can blast the Beatles' "Nowhere Man," to remind him of the good old days of how he allowed Iraqi prisoners and detainees at Guantanamo Bay to be serenaded with nonstop heavy metal. The Beatles are easy listening by comparison. I'm sure he won't mind being kept up past his 10:30 bedtime.

That could be a good project: getting airtime for "Nowhere Man" post-election.

As for bringing him to justice or holding him accountable, it's worth a try. A take-no-prisoners approach is viscerally appealing: a reversal of fortune for masters of the killer instinct. In fact, it may be the only way to rid the country of these creeps once and for all.

distinguished scholar at a great university like Yale or Harvard.

Yea, right.

I'm gussing he does like al repug ex-presidents. Mine as much money as possible out of the government. No one wants to even hear speeches by an obvious moron. Even repugs won't want him around.

Splendid isolation that's more like insulation. I think Hoover lived out his days in one of the Waldorf Towers in NYC. * would still have his family fortune and business contacts to keep him financially comfortable. My fear is that he could become a lobbyist for oil, drug, defense, coal, or some other industry, or maybe a bunch of them.

One thing that would be a surprise: a career on the lecture circuit. He'll need to wear a thicker jacket or a thinner back bar, and he'll need a ventriloquist. I'm thinking Tucker Carlson, a close enough match in temperament and wisdom.

he headed up some foundations that everyone agree were quite successful at giving food to poor people or some such.

Just like the good old days....

for the duration! At very least, it'll let our friends and neighbors around the world know we are damned serious about being a fair, just, and honest constitutionally-limited democratic republic with a conscience and a sense of fair play. Perhaps stacking the lot of them up ala Abu Ghraib would be a bit out of line, but those crooks MUST be brought to justice! Crooked cops (Asscrap) simply must be held to a higher standard than even ordinary citizens. Period.

One game at a time. Today is the election. That's all there is in the whole world. Just the election. Everything else gets thought about after that.

n/t

acting mayor of Fallujah

and form his own 600 Club that gets automatically loaded on our cable systems whether we like it or not. Which is why Pat Robertson dissed him with the "no casualties" crack - competition.

even though many disagreed with it, I thought it was the right thing to do. We don't need our presidents charged with crimes and in jail. It would make us look like a banana repbublic. I continue to believe that was the right thing to do in Nixon's case. What he did (or didn't) do affected only the US and at a time when internationalism was not nearly as important as it is now.

I see things a bit different in Bush's case. First there was his father and the shit he pulled. Then there's the obvious wrong doing he's pulled. But the essential difference is this ....... what he did affects people *outside* the US.

Do I want to see him in court. Emotionally, yes, I do. Rationally .... no. It hurts the whole country and sets a potentially catastophic precedent. What we need to do is find a way to step up to the line close enough to let the world know that we know and that we're fixing it and punishing it. Someone said a preemptive pardon by Kerry. I actually like that idea (or something like it). The message is clear. Bush remains free, but thoroughly humiliated, marginalized, and diminished.

Best of all, it is a great way to keep the whole Bush dynasty down on the pig farm and out of **our** White House.