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matcom

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:51 PM
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O'Reilly In Meltdown Mode

had him on for my 10 minute ride home.

he said, "Hey, whatever happens tonight happens. I can't predict it. If Bush* didn't have Iraq, he would have won by 20+ points. But, he has Iraq. He was running against himself."

:wow:

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emulatorloo

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:52 PM
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1. Sounds like he already knows the results. . .EOM

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MaryH

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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5. He might just be right.

Way back when I thought that Iraq would be Bush's undoing.

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central scrutinizer

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:06 PM
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39. no, he would have lost by 20

look at the trend lines - he was heading for the floor when 9/11 happened and people rallied around. He then started dropping again and only the invasion of Iraq pulled him back up. Since then he has had a small bump when Saddam was captured but overall it has been consistently downward. He can't run on his record since it is abysmal - all he has is fear and the "wartime leader" facade.

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NewYorkerfromMass

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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6. Yep

I can smell it everywhere.

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sonicx

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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8. yes, these news people should know better than to make conclusions

based on the exit polls.

but, oh well. i hope he has a good cry. :D

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VolcanoJen

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:14 PM
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53. A dejected Tucker Carlson seemed to have some inside scoop.

He was practically pouting during a recent CNN segment, and predicted we'll know who won before we go to bed tonight.

Hmmm... ominous RNC internals???

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Bucky

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:21 PM
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59. not internals... exits.

Mr. Bush, exit stage right. Far right.

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Stinky The Clown

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Tue Nov-02-04 04:09 PM
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71. Bow Tie Boy should be happy

He's already called it for Kerry. This past weekend.

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YDogg

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:53 PM
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2. If * didn't have Iraq ...

... it would be something else (there's a pretty long list of something elses as it stands). And he would not win by 20+ points.

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NewJeffCT

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:55 PM
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12. Yes

And if Herbert Hoover hadn't had that troublesome Great Depression...

If LBJ didn't have Vietnam...

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dogtag

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:56 PM
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18. Yeah, like 'Iraq' was forced on poor widdle Shrub...

All the big bad Democrats ganged up on Shrubby and made him attack Iraq? Have some more Oxy, Rush!

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flygal

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:57 PM
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26. No kidding - where to start, so many...

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MsLeopard

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:06 PM
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41. If a bullfrog had wings....

.....he wouldn't bump his ass when he jumps.

Shut up, Bill O'Lielly.

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Steelangel

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:53 PM
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3. yeah right.

Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 02:53 PM by Steelangel

Without Iraq, Mr. 'My Pet Goat' still will not get 20+ points.

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indie_voter

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:56 PM
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20. I don't think so and I can't stand *

However without Iraq * would have been able to run on 9/11 and security and probably win.

Everybody knows (even though some refuse to admit it out loud) we are far less secure, especially since Iraq is FUBAR.

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Tamyrlin79

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:04 PM
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38. What is FUBAR??

Some sort of Vietnam thing that is before my time?

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Bush_Eats_Beef

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:06 PM
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42. "F**ked Up Beyond All Recognition" n/t

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doubleplusgood

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:07 PM
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43. FUBAR

F***ed Up Beyond All Recognition

from WWII or before, I think

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Ganja Ninja

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:57 PM
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25. Without Iraq & 9/11 & the economy & Enron & Halliburton & ...

the 3 debates. Bush would be doing just fine if he didn't have a record to run on like last time.

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shelley806

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:06 PM
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40. I'm from Texas; I despised B* and his family b4 he was even selected. n/t

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aden_nak

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:53 PM
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4. Funny thing is, he's mostly right.

Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM by aden_nak

I don't know about 20 points, but I don't think Bush could be defeated without Iraq.

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sonicx

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:55 PM
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14. well, there is the economy and Bin laden

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spooky3

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:56 PM
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19. and the massive debt, and the environment, and...and...and...

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aden_nak

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:58 PM
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27. But without the frying pan across the head that is Iraq. . .

I think TERRA TERRA TERRA would still be working on most people.

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PROGRESSIVE1

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:55 PM
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17. If Bush could just run on the "War on Terror" he could have squeaked...

Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 02:57 PM by PROGRESSIVE1

by even with the mediocre economy.

I emphasize that Bush would SQUEAK to victory.

Iraq has DESTROYED His Presidency!

But when the people see ALL that has gone wrong, Iraq is the last nail in the coffin. The economy, failed war on terror, Bush's vilifying of his opponents and Iraq all have come together to ruin his chances at a second term!

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sandnsea

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:57 PM
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24. I think that's wrong

Without Iraq, there wouldn't the middle of a war syndrome and people would feel more comfortable to take a look at the corporate takeover and Bush's giving the moon to the entire world. I think he'd go down even harder if we'd had an election based only on the economy and a failed Afghanistan and Bin Laden still free.

Just my 2.

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aden_nak

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:04 PM
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37. He could play the "strong leader" card better, though.

Having not pissed off the rest of the free world. I think Iraq was THE motivating factor that caused people to look at the rest of his record. Remember how willingly people went along with Iraq at first? They were ready to follow Bush ANYWHERE. And if he'd stayed in Afghanistan, it would be damn hard to make a case that he ignored bin Laden. Shit, he might have found him by now.

He'd still DESERVE to lose, I just think Rove could have pulled it together otherwise. Iraq, though, is too huge a wound for the public to ignore. Its failures come in body count, rather than in environmental statistics.

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shelley806

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:10 PM
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46. Excellent point; War presidents are more likely to stay in power. Not B*

Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 03:11 PM by shelley806

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Ganja Ninja

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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7. Poor Bill, I should send him a pack a batteries to cheer him up. n/t

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starbuck6446

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:55 PM
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16. don't forget the falafel!

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bush equals idiot

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Tue Nov-02-04 04:06 PM
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70. Goes good with his waffle....and decaffeinated coffee

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exliontamer

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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9. When is O'Reilly *not* in meltdown mode?

The guy is a walking train wreck and a perv to boot.

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DefenseLawyer

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:14 PM
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52. Only in the "afterglow"

of particularly gratifying phone sex.

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PROGRESSIVE1

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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10. NO ONE is going to get a 20+ victory!!!! Only Johnson(64) & Roosevelt(36)

had such margins!!!

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eataTREE

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:54 PM
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11. If * didn't have Iraq...

...he'd LOSE by 20 points and 400+ electoral votes. War fervor is the only thing he's got going for him.

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sir_arms_50

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:56 PM
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21. yup

Without the war they would have to look at his "gasP" record here in the US alone!

ouch!

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Kahuna

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:55 PM
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13. I'm listening to Rush. He's in meltdown too. I get to hear Hannity's

meltdown in about five minutes. :evilgrin:

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napi21

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:55 PM
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15. Wasn't Iraq supposed to be shrub's strong point?

I thought that was the Pug plan all along! What a great CIC and all. I find it very interesting that o'Riley is talking like this. Hmmmm

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ronnykmarshall

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:56 PM
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22. Guess he'll need me batteries.

My guess is that his "personal massage" device is gonna get a work out.

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Hubert Flottz

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:27 PM
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61. If that thing is wind powered Bill won't need batteries!

He could blow up an onion sack!

When they started talking "Melt Down" I thought the thang might be atomic!(nukluur)

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onenote

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:56 PM
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23. if bush didn't have rove

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enki23

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:58 PM
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28. if iraq had been the cakewalk they all predicted

he'd probably be well on the way to "president for life" by now. fact is, mr dildo, they didn't think iraq was a "risk." they thought it was their meal ticket for the next decade or more.

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4_Legs_Good

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:59 PM
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29. Isn't it strange that when we were protesting the IRAQ Invasion

we were actually working to keep George Jr. in power.

I agree with O'Lieley. Had George Jr. not invaded Iraq, he would have won (not by 20 points, though).

Had 9/11 not happened he would have lost by 20 points.

david

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berni_mccoy

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:59 PM
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30. FREEPER FREEPOUT

More than a few people posted the VNS/NEP numbers on freeper land and it got to over 500 FREEPOUT messages before admins yanked the whole thread. It was beautful to see the freepers CRYING (the news AINT good for them).

Simply a beautiful moment. And the funny thing is the topic was started BECAUSE OF DRUDGE who is also freaking out about it.

If you have a freeper account I recommend you use your last post to keep posting the numbers over there. They are SO DISTRAUGHT.

LOL LOL LOL

(I posted this on another topic... I can't start a new topic because I don't have enough posts yet. sorry)

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shelley806

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:16 PM
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55. Something about a Drudge report was posted here, but was empty..

What was said?

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fishwax

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:59 PM
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31. and if he didn't have 9/11

then he wouldn't have a flippin' prayer.

Thank God the mess in Iraq apparently woke up JUST ENOUGH of the American public to kick this prick out of office.

:bounce::grr::bounce:

Hey shrub, take O'reilley with you!

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Amaya

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Tue Nov-02-04 02:59 PM
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32. He knows

I listened to some talk radio today and they know. You can hear in their pathetic attempts to justify bushy's loss.

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ProfessorPlum

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:02 PM
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33. Very astute

O'Reilly comments that if the Chimpleton wasn't such a massive f*ckup, he would do better in the election.

That must be why Bill gets the big bucks.

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skordane

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:03 PM
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34. Listened to the AM Radio Fuhrer Limpballs at Lunch

He was spinning that the Gallop Poll undecided voters would be 50-50 split and that Bush would win.

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Hubert Flottz

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:33 PM
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63. Rush was about as right today as he was about the Eagles QB!

Maybe Bill can go squeeze that thing on Rush's ass for kicks!

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shelley806

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:03 PM
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35. "But, he has Iraq." Well, duh. He MADE Iraq. For the wrong reasons.n/t

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Borgnine

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:03 PM
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36. Smear falafel on my nipples, O'Reilly!

They could use the massage. My nipples are pointing towards VICTORY!

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wellstone_democrat

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:28 PM
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62. LMAO

falling down LMAO

that was unexpected!

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HerbieHeadhunter

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:07 PM
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44. Yeah, that pesky little Iraq thing...

If FDR didn't have WW2, he would have lost I suppose. If Johnson didn't have Vietnam, he would have run for a second term.

I'll say this....If Bush didn't have 9/11, he would have been beaten in the Republican primaries.

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Bush_Eats_Beef

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:09 PM
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45. Without 9/11 to prop him up, how many points would be have LOST by?

Seriously, what's going to happen to these Fox "pundits" when this is all over? Will their sole purpose be to entertain and soothe devastated Freepers?

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Rainbowreflect

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:11 PM
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47. Oh poor baby, these last few months have not been kind to Bill.

:evilgrin:

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Doosh

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:11 PM
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48. freepers in panic

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jimshoes

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:11 PM
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49. Hey Dill er ... uh Bill

Chimpy made Iraq, It's his and his alone.

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realcountrymusic

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:13 PM
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50. Cry me a loofah (EOM)

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Geek_Girl

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:13 PM
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51. I can't stand this guy

He pumped up the Iraq war on his news program, criticized all those who opposed it and now he's criticizing the president for it. What a hypocrite!

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jobycom

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:16 PM
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54. How long before O'Reilly does to W what Rush did to Bush Daddy?

The day after the election in 92, Rush announced to the audience, "Well, the good news is that I don't have to defend this turkey anymore!"

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LynnTheDem

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:18 PM
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56. And bush invaded Iraq so he'd WIN a 2nd term.

That's bush all over, 100% total FU.

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Javaman

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:19 PM
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57. Just need the violin music in the background. O'Lielly is a sexist prick

He's riding the fence

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npincus

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:20 PM
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58. he's mad because his wife won't let him have phone sex with young

women anymore

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d_b

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:22 PM
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60. I actually agree with him (ew)

I think Iraq was the deathnail.

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Smacker

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:40 PM
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64. Interesting that he's sanguine now . .

after trying to tell everyone that Bush should and will win for all this time.

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GalleryGod

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:52 PM
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65. Hey,Mat!!! Can you SMELL it? And I don't mean Daryn Kagan's Cooch!?

ahem..with apologies to FF Coppolla and Robert Duval

:hippie:

"I LOVE the smell of FREEDOM in the morning...
Smells like...like

VICTORY!" :bounce:

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riverwalker

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:55 PM
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66. he "chose" Iraq

it was not thrust upon poor little dumya. He chose it, pursued it, chased it down the hallway, embraced it.
Now 100,000 dead civilains and 1200 dead American soldiers later, he is pouting for how it effected "his" candidate, not for the river of blood left in his wake. O'Rielly is done.

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shayes51

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Tue Nov-02-04 03:59 PM
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67. Other than that, Mr. Lincoln,.....

how was the Bush administration?

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Iris

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Tue Nov-02-04 04:00 PM
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68. He has Iraq because he CREATED Iraq! Ain't payback hell? n /t

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robbedvoter

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Tue Nov-02-04 04:01 PM
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69. Poow baby! Did Iraq jump and hit him on the face? "Political capital"

Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 04:02 PM by robbedvoter

plan backfired..... :nopity:

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