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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:15 PM
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Ohio voters standing in line up to nine hours...
...the courts have ordered ballots for everyone in line. (MSNBC reporting)
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:16 PM
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1. hang in there, Buckeyes! I hope someone is feeding these good citizens.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:16 PM
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2. Now we know why the fuck they can't call Ohio
This was an attempt to steal the election.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:17 PM
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3. Good for us.
I've heard more than once today that people don't stand in line that long for more of the same!
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Tigerlily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:22 PM
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9. Exactly!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:17 PM
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4. 9 hours??? Why? Were there that many people
or were there problems at the polling place? Not enough machines?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:19 PM
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6. Republicans challenging votes.
Slows down the voting process, especially in heavily-populated Democratic counties.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:26 PM
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12. But didn't they have to go aside, and let the other folks vote during
the challenges?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:21 PM
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7. That is disgusting. No one should have to wait in line like that.
This is infuriating! Where they not put on notice that there were problems in 2000!:grr:
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:24 AM
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22. 3 machines in many precincts for this election, but ...
9 machines during the primaries -- NBC.

I'm sure that wasn't deliberate, was it, Mr. Blackwell?
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:18 PM
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5. Paper ballots!
But, what worries me is whether these are regular election ballots or provisional. I've got to give it to our friends in Ohio. They have stayed in line. They are determined to vote. Saw a clip of folks outside, some had been standing there for over 4 hours.

Let's make sure their votes are counted!
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Tigerlily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:21 PM
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8. Ballots for everyone!
Courts ordered ballots for everyone? I think I can sleep now! Goodnight! :hi:

Expect to have a NEW PRESIDENT tomorrow! :bounce:
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pimpbot Donating Member (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:24 PM
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10. Anyone near these places PLEASE go out and help!
Bring food or chairs or something. Anything to keep the people in line. Maybe bring your favorite repuke bashing stick.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:25 PM
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11. This is really ridiculous
Imagine how many potential voters have left the line after all of these hours.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:47 PM
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21. I'd expect relatively FEW to leave the lines after waiting so long...
Psychologically speaking, having waited in line for hours like that represents a sunk cost. The longer you have to wait, the more you expect to get what you've waited for. Packing it in would be wasting a large investment of time, and would force the person to accept a psychological loss. The same phenomenon makes it hard for people to tear themselves away from a casino slot machine, or to call a retreat in a losing war. People can be enormously stubborn in such situations.

Also, don't overlook the comraderie that develops when a large number of people find themselves together in a novel situation.


Of course, it goes without saying that our elections DO need more polling places and better logistics.


Mary
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:27 PM
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13. MSNBC discussed how Dems won't give an inch
We conceded too early in 2000 and that will not happen this time. Amen!

Who cares if we don't find out tonight or tonmorrow. I can wait until all the ballots are counted everywhere. Hrumph!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:28 PM
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14. Why isn't the fucking press making a big deal out this! It is insane.
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:26 AM
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24. Go to Canadian Broadcasting ...
They did a great story about this.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:28 PM
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15. Nine hours!?
God Bless those people.
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sir_arms_50 Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:34 PM
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17. this is unreal
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:30 PM
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16. At 7:30 PM
The polls "closed" in Columbus but HUNDREDS of people were still in line
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:35 PM
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18. My OH district had a 60% turnout
and the line was maxed out the entire time. There is absolutely no way that all of the registered voters could have voted if they wanted to because there were only 3 machines for 1300 people!
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LilKim Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:40 PM
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20. 3 machines for 1300 people!
Just what the fuck is the problem over there? This level of retarded incompetence is beyond mind boggling.
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:28 AM
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25. It's NOT incompetence ...
It was deliberate.

It was calculated.
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LilKim Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:30 AM
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26. incompetence?
Then why was it tolerated?
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:37 PM
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19. GOOD NEWS
If everyone who wants to vote is allowed to vote we will win.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:25 AM
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23. PROVISIONAL BALLOTS.
How are they being counted?

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:34 AM
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27. Now THAT'S an America I can be proud of!
Nine hours in line waiting to vote!

God bless you, Ohio. God bless you, especially, Cleveland!

Bake
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