I can't believe the horrible things being said here today. ...............

IT'S NOT KERRY'S FAULT. His consession is the real manly thing to do. Dean would not have done better nor anyone else. This talk is what is wrong. If you didn't support Kerry 100% you may have to blame yourself. You are tearing apart this party. Everyones heart is broken and spirits are shattered and your ripping at them more. Shame on you.

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There are still mfg. jobs that haven't been shipped out yet. Too many IT companies have fat,overpaid Americans working for them. There are still 1.2 billion America-hating muslims walking the earth. There are still too many decent paying union jobs to be eliminated. Think of the profits to be made making 10 commandment posters, etc. There is much work to be done in the next 4 years by God's soldiers in Washington and elsewhere. Let's roll!!!

No passion, nothing. Edwards' speech was much better.

Sorry, but I've backed Kerry like a good soldier, and I can see why some of us are wanting to frag the officer right now. We're twisting in the wind.

ng to help so that we can be strong?

You are in total denial if you think we can heal under these circumstances. We are becoming Mexico. Power is weilded ruthlessly to service those in power.

I want inspiration and more than platitudes. We're Dems, we expect more from our leaders, especially when we've been sucker-punched.

What am I doing? I'm doing what everyone else is, I hope. I'm not rolling over or bending over. It doesn't stop here. The campaign continues.

Just a little more fire in the belly from our man would have been good. Edwards showed it.

And believe me, I can relate to exhaustion. We all can.

I've got to go clean the house now. Anything to try to take my mind off this fiasco of an "election."

Amazing and horrifying to see people turn on their own.

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your words, not mine. I prefer intelligence and finesse...

Today: Well... Fuck that... I guess we've lost anyway.

You think the righties are going to let any 'healing' take place? They're going to attack us, CONSTANTLY!

need to unite as one party. All you do is pull us apart.

The party of Pelosi and Daschle? Fuck it.

thanks to George Bush, the great uniter. I'm afraid that unity is lost as of now. A split is very likely. For me, it would be great if both parties split- then we'd have to have coalitions in Congress and us over here on the so-called "far left" might get a voice. As it is now, we have only deadlock to look forward to on a national level (except when the Repubs steamroll and the Dems lay down), and schism in our party, while the neocon and conservative factions of the Repubs unite to ruin us.


What a rosy future.

when it's all fucked up on the inside. And you really think the leaders of the Dems are going to listen to YOU about repairing what they are quite comfortable with? They will maybe let you lick some stamps to help them out with their problems...

They are going to be coming away from the experience with a bloody stump.

Now I am angry with him. He rolled over. Shame on him and Shame on you for disallowing me the right to be an American.

Denial is not going to help us.

How the hell do we know at this early hour that there wasn't some rampant fraud given bush's history in Florida?

In 2000 most of the fraud only became apparent days later...initially all that anyone knew about was the butterfly ballot (which just happened to be the least serious of the voter corruption in Florida as it turned out)

There is no way that Kerry/Edwards people can know for sure this early on... that there wasn't fraud afloat--esp with the diebold voting machines in place.

It wouldn't have been inappropriate to want to wait a couple of days to make sure everything was as it was presented by the bush camp.

I personally think Edwards and Kerry are at odds over this--I believe Edwards would have fought but it isn't his call.

Exactly. States aren't in...Kerry rolls...over.

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to see how quickly people are turning against Kerry. He, along with Al Gore, is the most honorable politician I know of. Maybe honor and integrity died along with democracy.

I'm still hoping against hope that a miracle will prevail. I just think his speech was uninspiring.

I still admire John Kerry and respect him tremendously for running against the most diabolical political machine ever to spew from the mouth of hell.

I have no desire to "heal" or "unite" with the red state assholes.

The Republicans can fuck off and the whole "God bless America" thing right about now makes me want to throw up.

I was behind Kerry all the way but I didn't like his speech and I am pissed that he didn't wait a couple of days -- mark my words there will be fraud found, but it will be too late.

ll counting. Unite as Dems.

and their talk about "uniting the country"

As you can see I am not a proponent of uniting with the repukes.

It wasn't necessary for him to throw that in there and I didn't appreciate it--today it's pretty much like a slap in the face.

I really don't think he or his campaign is to blame. The fault lies with the republican party and their constant lies, and a public who is gullible enough to be taken in by them.

We all need a pretty good venting, followed by a pretty good cry.

We will regroup.

we will make sure all votes are counted."

Gee thanks, how very generous of you. :puke:

This? "It won't make a difference, but we'll take it to the courts anyway and drag this election out for the next 2 months. Because that's just the kind of guy I am, and that's what a few boneheads on DU want me to do!"

I'm proud of Kerry. He exited with dignity in the face of defeat.

He was so busy avoiding being called a liberal that he offered nothing but "more of the same - just not as bad".

I voted for him, but don't ask me to not hold him and his DLC pals responsible for running a lousy campaign highlighted by a facile attempt to pander to the bubbas by killing a goose.

We aren't "tearing this party apart", the party has been split for years between the wannabee moderate republican DLC and the left. We're just acknowledging the reality.

Let people vent their spleens here for a couple of days, because people do need to yell, cuss, and scream. And then shut this particular forum down so we can all get back to business.

Christ. And we joked about the "meltdowns" over at Freeperville!

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