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pstokely

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:52 PM
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Edwards in 2008

let's start the fund raising now

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derbstyron

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:54 PM
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1. I'm torn

Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 02:55 PM by derbstyron

I love Edwards. I supported him in the primaries and he swung me to Kerry with the selection. But we were throttled in the south. He didn't seem to help at all. We CANNOT win without the south. Let's wait and see how he responds to this.
2008! :)

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:58 PM
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8. K-E didn't campaign in the south, so that's not a good measure.

If they campaigned and lost, that would have been a problem.

However, Kerry's decision not to try to win in the south was his strategy from the primaries on and picking Edwards didn't change that strategy. He picked Edwards to win in WI and OH, and FL, and not to win in Ark. and GA.

If Edwards runs in 2008 and rolls through Southern Super Tuesday, I think that will carry momentum, and I think he will campaign in the south again for the general election, just as Clinton did.

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derbstyron

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:02 PM
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17. valid points

I posted somewhere else that my tummy got a bad feeling months ago when I heard that the Kerry campaign said the south wasn't needed to win. We're going to have to swing a couple our way to win.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:09 PM
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25. During primaries, Edwards's big selling point was that he was going to try

to win at least 5 southern states.

It would have been interesting to let him loose in Miss., Ark, LA., FL, NC, GA, and Tenn, and see what he could accomplish.

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derbstyron

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:18 PM
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52. Yeah

They never really even gave NC a shot did they?
I mean, a couple of rallies but no concerted effort.

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:55 PM
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2. Edwards was the perfect antithesis to Bush. We'll see what 2008 brings.

I definitely think that Edwards as the early favorite -- the bar -- for 2008 will produce and extremely good nominee. I feel confident that if Edwards sets the bar, he or the person who gets past him, will be the winner in 2008.

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Tweed

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:57 PM
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37. Edwards will keep national attention and add to his resume how?

This was it for Edwards IMO. If Kerry didn't win this for him, than Edwards wasn't going to be VP and he wasn't going to be able to 'prove' himself. Where does he go from now that would make him a prime contender in 2008? We have a lot of other blood in the party that would make a better selection. Durbin, Feingold, Spitzer, Warner, and Ford just to name a couple. All those guys will be active too.

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:07 PM
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43. I think Edwards should look at NC Governor in 2008

Edwards was perfect to go up against Bush, but he may not be as strong in '08.

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:11 PM
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47. If he sets the bar, the Democrats really are at an all time low. e/o/m

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The Chronicler

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:55 PM
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3. I question how popular Edwards is in the south.

He sure as hell didn't help with NC. Also, what is he going to do for the next 4 years? He wont be any more "experienced" than he is now.

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:59 PM
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10. Largely, unknown this election. But he'll be the most popular in 2008 as

a result of having run this year.

Lieberman was the early favorite for 2004, but was an unkown in 2000.

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The Chronicler

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:00 PM
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11. Lieberman was still a US Senator (nm)

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:01 PM
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13. Yes, a very popular and loved US senator.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:03 PM
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19. Lieberman was an early favorite based on name recognition.

And of course he lost. Vice-Presidential candidates almost never go on to win the nomination in the next election cycle.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:12 PM
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27. Name recognition gets you up to a point, and then message has to carry

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you farther.

It would be absurd not to take advantage of the name recognition -- to give your ideas a higher platform from which to start -- and then see if the ideas themselves can take you higher.

Joe didn't have any ideas, but he showed what a high platform you get from having been VP nominee.

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Skwmom

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:13 PM
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48. The most popular only if the corporate media pushes him.

Which of course they will. The Republicans love picking the Democratic candidates (it makes winning that much easier).

With a record like this, it's time for some tough love.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:12 PM
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28. He didn't run for re-election and a Republican won his seat

Edwards will either have to go back to his law practice or get some other gig...

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high density

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:56 PM
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Please keep Edwards away from the primaries

This was his shot and it didn't happen. I'm sorry, I think he's a really nice guy, but if the Republicans are going to get us into perpetual wars, we'll need a candidate with the experience to resolve them.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:00 PM
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12. Talk only about war and terror and Republicans will keep winning.

The real story of American politics isn't terror. It's the shift of wealth to the richest Americans and that's the thing that Edwards addresses more bluntly than any other candidate.

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Joe the Revelator

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:07 PM
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23. A New Face In 2008!!

No more going to last year's well, its dry in there.

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:56 PM
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4. No way

He's no longer a senator, and the governor of North Carolina (Mike Easley-D) was just re-elected. He would have had six years in the Senate and then four years of nothing. He doesn't have what it takes to be nominated.
We need to focus on moderate young populists. (Hint: Think Bill Clinton). Particularly Governors. The Republicans will be doing the same. With Gore and Kerry, we learned that "personality" does matter. This is why I'm thinking Evan Bayh (only because Obama is going to have to wait until 2016 or so), although I don't like Bayh that much. Any suggestions, anyone?

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:56 PM
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5. Hillary CLINTON in 2008!!!

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realisticphish

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:01 PM
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40. no way

i think Ms. Clinton would make an excellent president, but trust me, she has been vilified in red america for so long, that there would be no chance

:hippie: The Incorrigible Democrat

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in_cog_ni_to

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:57 PM
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6. He lost his own state last night. I don't think prez

is for Edwards.

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MinnesotaMike31

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:57 PM
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7. I dont think Edwards helped the Kerry ticket so no go on his own either.

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ArtVandaley

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Wed Nov-03-04 02:58 PM
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9. No way

Edwards sucked on the campaign trail. Kerry kicked George's ass in the debates but Edwards couldn't beat Darth Cheney!

No Edwards, No Hillary.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:02 PM
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15. And you want to be my latex salesman?

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ArtVandaley

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:09 PM
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24. I'm an importer/exporter

Haha

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:10 PM
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26. Have you considered a career in marine biology? Or architecture?

Or hand modeling?

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GreenArrow

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:01 PM
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14. let's not

He didn't help Kerry.

He didn't help Erskine Bowles.

He should go back to his law practice.

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Stuckinthebush

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:02 PM
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16. Nope

He lost NC.

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Pastiche423

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:02 PM
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18. Howard Dean in '08!

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:17 PM
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50. Lets do Dean he was the one they were most afraid of n/t

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:04 PM
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20. Edwards Wanted to Fight On and Not Concede

One of the main reasons Edwards didn't help in the South,is because the campaign didn't use him in the South.

I expected to see many more campaign stops in Georgia, Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, South Carolina. Bring along Wesley Clark and we might of been able to peel off one or two of these.

Edwards/Clark in 08

I think John Edwards feels it more emotionally as Bill Clinton did. He'll be back.

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Tweed

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:06 PM
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21. He lost this time around, why would we run him again?

Terrible idea

Dick Durbin
Russ Feingold
Elliot Spitzer

Those are my top three picks.

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JI7

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:06 PM
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22. Edwards is probably the best choice, certainly a top choice

i can't really see how anyone would be able to stop him.
there are a few, but edwards has a head start like lieberman did in 2000. only difference is that lieberman's lead had more to do with name recognition but he wasn't all that as a candidate.

when kerry picked edwards he picked someone who had overall appeal as a presidential candidate, not just vp candidate.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:14 PM
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29. I agree

He has to start fighting against the Diebold machines right now.

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:40 PM
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30. AMEN

An Edwards 2008 webpage. Set it up and I'll donate now.

I'd like a John Edwards/Ed Rendell or John Edwards/Evan Bayh ticket.

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aldian159

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:46 PM
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31. It is probably his nomination to lose

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RetroLounge

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:53 PM
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32. Yeah, he helped us lots in the south this time

:eyes:

RL

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brettdale

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:53 PM
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33. WHY BOTHER

Cant people understand, that no matter who we put up, we will lose because they will make sure votes go missing. Four more years of Bush and there is no comeback after that, this was OUR LAST CHANGE AND IT IS NOW OVER.

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FrenchieCat

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:54 PM
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34. Hell no!

If you think that "the War on Terror" will have been won by 2008...you are sadly mistaken. Edwards is not a leader, or anything.....just a pretty face and a good trial attorney.

Please think warrior....who will do to the Rethuglicans what they have done to us. Think tuff.....

No more Mommy Party choices to run....until we are back at peace. Americans have spoken....they wanted the "Daddy Party". We can offer them that, but not with Edwards.

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Adelante

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:01 PM
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41. Right-o

If Edwards wants to do something, let him clog the courts with lawsuit after lawsuit, argue case after case, in state after state, having to do with electoral manipulation by the Bushies. If he doesn't, he has been of no use whatever to any of us.

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Walt Starr

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:56 PM
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35. Edwards did nothign for Kerry in the South

He is a non-starter in '08 because of that.

We need a charismatic Southern or Midwestern governor with a proven record in support of gun rights.

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:35 PM
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59. Or in the West, east, North. dead weight.

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cheezus

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Wed Nov-03-04 03:56 PM
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36. Yes! Edwards is the populist who can unite the country.

let's make sure there aren't any kids going to bed hungry in America... THEN we can squabble over gays

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BenDavid

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:00 PM
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38. Awe Hell! That is damn silly

if you ask me about promoting Edwards. Damn! From what I am reading most are blaming Kerry for not fighting hard enough. Well, excuse me but was it not Edwards that ran a clean campaign in the primaries? And you expect Edwards to fight harder? If you do not believe that negative campaigns work then take a damn look at Presidents Gore and Kerry. They do work, and you have to work hard at it, and the Republicans do it well. If you gonna be a bear in a Presidential campaign, then you better be a DAMN GRIZZLEY!!!

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kerry-is-my-prez

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:01 PM
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39. He has no military background. It will have to be Clark/McPeak.

Sad as it is, we have a bunch of scared ninnies running around in this country.

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billyskank

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:40 PM
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62. Forget military background

that doesn't mean the GOP can't call you weak and unpatriotic. If you've got nothing they can attack you on, they'll just make some bullshit up and get someone else to attack you with it. Enough with the military worship!

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Thrill

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:01 PM
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42. NO

He can't even carry his own state. Easley is a better candidate than Edwards. Easley can actually CARRY NC

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TheWebHead

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:08 PM
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44. Bayh Bayh Bayh

Edwards cannot do it. At least Bayh just won an easy re-election in Indiana.

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prayin4rain

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:10 PM
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45. I love Edwards!!

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Skwmom

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:10 PM
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46. Do the Democrats have a fixation with losing?

Edwards - you have got to be kidding.

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FrenchieCat

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:15 PM
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49. That's what I said....

When he was named VP. Made me wonder what was Kerry thinking? Wartime president obviously didn't come to mind.

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Robeson

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:19 PM
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53. Agree...

...I never thought Edwards brought a thing to the ticket. There were others who would have brought some additional votes, especially in Ohio.

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Leilani

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:52 PM
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63. Except for the few Edwards fans here at DU

he had zero impact...

the charisma was not evidenced except by a few here at DU...

did anyone see the Edwards/hair video making the rounds of the internet? He really was the Breck girl.

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:17 PM
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51. Maybe he could win North carolina? Wow. This sucks.

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Robeson

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:19 PM
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54. Nope, and not with my funds.

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robbedvoter

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:21 PM
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55. yeay! he conceded even faster than Kerry - before polls closed

In the primaries. Worried not to miss prime time on teevee conceded 3 hours ahead of the end of voting. yeah, I can't wait to trust my right to vote to this guy! How much of my $ do you want?

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FrenchieCat

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:25 PM
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56. Plus....

The two thumbs up and the narrowing of the eyes while the lip pouts just isn't going to make it.

The guy is a lightweight.....That's my story, and I am sticking to it.

Now if he can get those Diebold machines fixed in time for the next election, I might reconsider him being a VP on a ticket that has a kick ass warrior on top of the ticket.

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Leilani

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:30 PM
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57. I kept quiet about Edwards, but now I can say:

He was worthless as Veep.

Show me 1 vote he added?

His job was to woo rural voters...failed.

What a joke!

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Kahuna

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:36 PM
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60. Ditto.

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Kahuna

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:33 PM
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58. No thanks.

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WI_DEM

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Wed Nov-03-04 04:36 PM
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61. No, he (like Kerry) is damaged goods

He also has no base. He didn't win any southern states for us including his own. He was selected to help in the midwest and we lost Ohio and Iowa. Michigan was much closer than expected and Wisconsin was a toss up throughout the campaign.

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dogman

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Wed Nov-03-04 06:45 PM
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64. Kerry-Edwards=Gore-Liebermann

It's over, move along, we'll have this mess removed. Please don't bring back Joementum relabeled as Johnmentum. He wasn't qualified to be VP, he wont be qualified to be anything more in four years. Time to pursue a legal career and let us move on.

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Neshanic

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Wed Nov-03-04 06:48 PM
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65. If he floats in on a cloud, guided by Jesus himself...... uh, nope.

I'll take losers for 500 please.

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