RIP Democratic Party 1827 - 2004

I think it's time to acknowledge the reality of the situation.

The party is divided into the centrist camp and progressive camp.

The New Deal coalition is gone forever.

We lost four more Senate seats, three more House seats, and couldn't unseat the most inept President since Herbert Hoover.

The Democratic Party joined the Federalists and Whigs in the political graveyard last night. It's a dead man walking.

going to be another election - fair or otherwise.

Kerry's a fine candidate. Kerry would make a great president.

The fact is the party lost to Charles Manson.

This party couldn't beat O.J. Simpson.

It couldn't beat Satan.

That means it's DEAD. It just doesn't know it yet.

www.democracyforamerica.com

I'm down with that.

:eyes:

:hangover:

I'm sure those people were joking, if it's true at all.

We need a right wing party for all the nut cases and religious wackos

A centrist party for fiscal conservatives and socially liberal americans


A left wing party for progressives


This way moderates in the South and the greedy in the North will have an alternative to voting for the GOP

When Jeffords deffected, I wish Chaffee, Snow, McCain, Dashle, Zell, Breaux, etc. got together and formed a new party.

I am so mad, I am thinking we should all wait a week before making any big assessments. But the one you made--well yeah. Its time to go ahead and admit it. Our long ride is over.

The Democratic Party is not dead.

...not even able to beat chimpass... losing 4 senate seats... losing ground in HOR and soon packing the court

no pulse, no brain activity, and the body just got run over by a war machine.

Sorry, it's dead. "It's dead, Jim!"

Get used to it.

Yeah, that's a dead party. :eyes: The Republicans are divided amongst true blood conservatives and religious zealots. They have their own battles to work out. We are going to be fine. Focus on 2006!

you give us the statistics of the dems in power but these people are aonly dems by name....that's all. They are spineless and simply follow what their repub masters tell them....so how exactly is the dem party not dead?

to time becasue they vote with the Democrats from time to time. The Republicans aren't a united party. You have to be kidding me if you don't agree. They have their own divisions between the conservatives and the fundies. Their party will implode soon.

The Democratic party is now just there to give the repubs someone to beat up on.

To make them look respectable.

The Democratic party is only there for appearances sake now.

the illusion of a two-party government.

Glad to see you have the right frame of mind to battle the Republicans. Your pessism is JUST what this party needs!

We can win back all of those within the next 2-4 years. Start cracking!

That song is getting kind of old...

time to smell the coffee. Or the coffin.

Dead is dead. This election is proof. What more proof do you want?

that we were going to have a one party systme!

im getting off this path to nowhere

As a Young Democrat I am both offended and annoyed that you would suggest this party is dead.

From the time I was 17 I dedicated long hours to fighting for Democratic values and the candidates who embodied them. Now that I'm in college I see evn more people just like myself ready to dedicate their lives to fighting for the values we deeply believe in.

This party is not dead. It needs reform. It needs focus. It needs a new message that can counter the isolationist, closeminded mentality of the conservatives.

America is a Democratic nation. Are party must make it a priority to remind Americans of that point.

We're not dead. We're about to come back with a vengence.

I'm young. I'm strong. I'm American. I'm Democrat.

The unicorns and rainbows have another one.

I will never vote Democrat again. Even if it's a wasted vote on someone who can't win.

we need a fighting party...

Because of the many wonderful things that the Democratic Party has done for this nation.

I will say good riddance to the squalid, corporatist, DLC corpse that the party has become.

but i do know it has been deeply wounded as i think we were all personally wounded this morning...

the democratic party needs to go through a catharsis...we need to question where we are and where we want to go...what are our beliefs, what binds us together...not just you and me, but the grand coalition...the new deal coalition...labor, academics, progressives, minorities and the average joe?

i don't know the answers, indeed i have many more questions than answers right now...

i had one friend who said that if we become the party that caters to hill-billy's, christian-nuts and racsist in order to win in the south that he'd leave in a heart-beat...i think most of us would, but this sidesteps the southern question...

the south is an albatross around our necks and unless we can make inroads there i fear we will become a permanent minority party...how to do this while not selling out our principles i think will be the challenge of the next four years.

do we go to the center...do we go to our progressive core, these are very tough questions that we need to have an honest and open debate about amongst ourselves...i doubt the conversation can happen right now...there is just too much passion and, well...depression at our loss.

i hope we can come together as a party and try to solve our problems...the alternative is splitting up into mini-party-factions that while well meaning will never win on thier own.

Anyone who thinks we are "dead" shouldn't be here.
Quit your crying.

Hasn't moved past stage 1 of grief:

DENIAL

Bush is the worst president in the history of the world.

Seriously.

This party not only failed to replace him, but failed to beat those who support him in congress.

I'm sorry, but if it looks like a corpse, smells like a corpse .....

I have cast my last vote for a Democrat unless significant changes are made

No more donations of money or time, no more votes, no more advocating for Dems.

The FDR legacy is dead. In retrospect, I should have known it was dead when Kucinich was treated like a fringe candidate in the primaries.

and sabotaged Howard Dean.

They've let the Republicans steal TWO presidential elections now. What good is a Democratic Party that won't protect democracy?

the media will be more concentrated in the hands of fewer right wingers and the voting process will be entirely electronic. There won't be any more democratic victories.

Period.

We need to pick a leader for 2008 now or we are toast.

parties can represent the full spectrum of ideologies.

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Apolgies to the uniters here, but I can't take it anymore.

In order to beat the opposition, it takes kick-ass candidates that give no quarter. I need to find a group that fights for the issues I am most concerned with and leaves the rest alone.

I have been in a forced association with many peoples' causes that, while I have nothing against their fruition, cause me to have less and less representation for the issues that are most important to me:
health care, environment, aid to poor children, job growth, excellence in education.

We need to separate in our thinking the ideals and principles from the party. The party dying does not mean that the principles and ideals die - quite the contrary.

This national election was the last gasp IMHO. The party consists of the label, the principles it supposedly stands for, and the loyalty of the rank and file. The label is still there. The label is a hindrance at this point as much as anything. I don't say this lightly, and did not reach this conclusion solely because of the results of this election.

- The party has lost any broad based populist appeal, and all interest in populism.

- The party has failed to be a strong and effective opposition party when the survival of the country depended on that.

- The party has compromised and backed down on its core principles, while pushing marginal issues that alienate and polarize the electorate and can't be "won" on the national stage in any case.

- The party has abandoned the workers, the poor, and minorities with a vengeance.

- The party has become sectional and elitist, catering to the needs and sensibilities of Northern suburban white college graduates.

- The party has sold out to global corporate interests at the expense of the people

Last but not least, the party has now misled and betrayed its most faithful and dedicated members, by crushing a growing populist movement and a flourishing and robust national conversation that we may not see again in our lifetimes, and has delivered us into the hands of tyranny.