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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:39 AM
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Everyone Put One of These On Your Car!
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 12:00 PM by Roland99






Go to google.com and search for "darwin fish"



I bought the bumper sticker from http://www.cafepress.com

Click on Politics link...then the Religion link...then the Cards/Stickers link.
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:54 AM
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1. Love the Bumper sticker
do you have a source?

Hate the Darwin fish. The Darwin fish implies a logic that assumes that one cannot believe in Jesus (god) and the concept of evolution. This is silly because many people believe in both evolution as a process and in Jesus. These are not mutually exclusive concepts. One does not logically negate the other. Th even more inane and might I say, self righteous, play on the Darwin Fish is the Evolve fish. It amazes me how some progressives can be so ignorant.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:59 AM
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3. Go to google.com and search for "darwin fish"
Edited on Thu Nov-04-04 12:00 PM by Roland99
I bought the bumper sticker from http://www.cafepress.com

Click on Politics link...then the Religion link...then the Cards/Stickers link.
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:02 PM
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5. Thanks
thanks for the idea I will be getting the religion bumper sticker!
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:00 PM
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4. Interesting take
See, I always thought the point of the Darwin fish was that you COULD believe in both Jesus and evolution. Thus the merging of the fish and Darwin. Guess that's just how I read it. OH well.

Love the bumpersticker!
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:04 PM
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7. One could see it that way
but it has been my experience from speaking to others who have them that that is not the intention. It is common to find religious cynics among progressives,democrats, and liberals.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:34 PM
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14. How's this one then? heh heh

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 03:07 PM
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22. I always took it as a jab at the fundamentalists/creationists
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:52 PM
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12. That's funny. I see the Darwin fish symbol in the opposite way.
To me it conveys that you CAN believe in God and evolution, hence the juxtaposition.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 11:56 AM
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2. Links please? n/t
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:03 PM
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6. Can I get one that says
"Don't blame me, I voted with the sane people."
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Gut Check Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:08 PM
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8. I always wanted to know... how does in the world does a fish=Jesus? n/t
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:43 PM
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10. Comes from the Greek word for "fish"
Which has been used as an acronym to refer to Christ. Also there's the connection to the disciples who were fishermen and/or "fishers of men."

Bake
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:47 PM
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11. Also a reference to the age of Pisces
which preceded the age of Aquarius by 2,000 years, and which followed the age of Taurus by the same time span.
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Haviland_42 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:55 PM
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17. What the Jesus fish symbolizes
"During the secrecy imposed by the persecutions, the fish symbol was used to identify Christians and their meeting places. A pagan, seeing a fish symbol drawn on the outer wall of a house, would believe that a funeral feast was taking place within. However, to the Christian, the sign indicated that the Eucharistic Mass was being held there that night. A Christian might have a fish drawn on his tomb for religious reasons but a Greek would place a fish on his tomb to show that, during his lifetime, he was a fisherman."
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Getchasome Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 12:10 PM
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9. Wish I could make a post
but under the new rules I can't yet. But here is what we're up against people, this is a great article. VERY scary.

http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2004/10/27/scherer-christian/
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:31 PM
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13. Just Google for Christian Reconstruction
Ashcroft, DeLay and now we have Coburn and DeMint.

It's time to take back America from the ground up!
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:52 PM
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16. Oh shit! I'm speechless. PLEASE EVERYONE READ THAT LINK!
I kind of knew some of that influence of religion in our government, that that article will SCARE THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS OUT OF YOU!! PLEASE.. everyone READ it!! And then.. we must decide what must be done.. because this election, stolen in some ways, is furthering this frightening cause. PLEASE READ THAT LINK from "GETCHASOME"'s post!!!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:57 PM
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18. And to think McConnell (my Senator from KY) will be the Majority Leader
I plan on becoming more politically active here in KY this year. If McConnell comes anywhere near me, I'll work my way into the crowd and ask him if he plans on destroying the environment to hasten the return of Christ.
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 01:34 PM
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15. I'll do it today
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:13 PM
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19. Awesome!!
This should be our version of Arlo Guthrie's Thanksgiving Day Massacre ;)
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:23 PM
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20. Uh...yeah...well....
this morning i was in the parking lot of my job and saw a car with the darwin fish AND a dubya/crashcart 04 bumper sticker.



i think the look on my face must have been priceless.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 02:39 PM
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21. ZOINKS!!
Well, I'm keeping my Bush Was Wrong All Along and Republicans Against Bush stickers and my "W" with the circle/slash, too.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:01 AM
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23. Kick
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