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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 08:54 PM
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Did anybody bother to say the obvious in this election?
....that FMA is pure BIGOTRY? That these state referendi are PURE BIGOTRY?

Did John Kerry or John Edwards say this? Did any of you call a spade a spade when yuo came across a knuckledragger who ragged on gays? Did any of you stand up and say what was right..even once during this election?

This turnout among the fundies was about bigotry. It wasn't about some etherial spectre of "divisive issue". If you can't stand up to bigotry, then you were more at fault foor losing this election than any gay person on the planet!
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:02 PM
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1. No reply? I must've hit a nerve.
:kick: :eyes:
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:06 PM
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3. I agree with you...
instead of blaming the DLC, the DNC, John Kerry, John Edwards, Michael Moore, etc... It was pure and simple hatred, ignorance and taliban-like fundamentalism. No more no less. It's time to accept that a large percentage of the U.S. electorate is made up of very bigoted homophobes. They are found everywhere, even in the bluest of states. Until we can separate our personal faiths from the best interests of the people and the U.S. constitution, there will always be homophobes.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:04 PM
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2. Is anyone who didn't take a position on gay-marriage in
previous elections a bigot, or is it only now a test of whether someone is a bigot?

Jimmy Carter has never taken a position one way or another on the issue, as far as I know. Is he a bigot?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:10 PM
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4. No one needs a "position" on it.
But when the right wing start pushing for banning it, then an emphatic statement pro/against is to be made.

In what previous election was FMA discussed? You make the mistake that this is about "gay marriage"...it was about the FMA annd the right wing framing the debate, the right wing pushing the agenda, and the right wing talking about it.

If Carter didn't take a stand, no he's not a bigot, but he's more to blame than gay people.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:19 PM
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5. I said it. And of course it's bigotry.
They can no longer openly express bigotry towards blacks in order to rally their members; thus, gays became the new target.

The majority of white Republicans, without having a group to hate, simply flounder. It's the old psychological defect of tearing someone down to make yourself bigger.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:27 PM
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6. Thank you. You did more than most.
This falls into the issue of wimpy language we were complaining about Kerry not saying LIAR during the election. If all Dems couldn't say "Bigot", then how can they complain about Kerry not calling * a liar? Stating the obvious should not have to take a set of balls.
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:32 PM
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7. Very true.
I expressed that exact sentiment in a Bible Study one time, saying "The only people Christians can discrimnate against now are gays and lesbians; and they do it without questioning its validity."

I just don't understand how people think it is okay to meddle in other people's lives.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-04 09:46 PM
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8. another kick. Not enough gay blamers posting here.
Defend yourselves.

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