Fuck JOHN KERRY - vp offer to mcCain far more serious than first reported

What fucking bullshit. I'm so pissed at this.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041104/nyth186_1.html

The "Outlandish" McCain Offer. Kerry's courtship of Senator John McCain to be his running mate was longer-standing and more intense than previously reported. As far back as August 2003, Kerry had taken McCain to breakfast to sound him out to run on a unity ticket. McCain batted away the idea as not serious, but Kerry, after he wrapped up the nomination in March, went back after McCain a half-dozen more times. "To show just how sincere he was, he made an outlandish offer," Newsweek's Thomas reports. "If McCain said yes he would expand the role of vice president to include secretary of Defense and the overall control of foreign policy. McCain exclaimed, 'You're out of your mind. I don't even know if it's constitutional, and it certainly wouldn't sell.'" Kerry was thwarted and furious. "Why the f--- didn't he take it? After what the Bush people did to him...'"

that takes advantage of the fact that Kerry is now a damaged-goods "loser."
I'm not buying.

Sorry. I have to consider it a missed opportunity. Yes, McCain has become a Bushco. whore. But he didn't have to become one. Had he agreed, we'd have won. (And by definition, had McCain accepted, he wouldn't have been a Bush-whore.)

As for McCain being more hawkish than Kerry? One of the strengths Kerry has - strengths that would have made an excellent President - is that he listens to people who hold different views then him. He's not ideologically rigid. So what if McCain holds different views then Kerry on some issues? So long as KERRY would be President and McCain would be playing second-fiddle it would be Kerry's judgement, not McCain's.

...the pro-gun control crowd was flakking for Repub McCain as the Democratic VP nominee, even as they accused the RKBA'ers of not being "real" Democrats. It was quite a sideshow.

I guess he cared.

Never satisfied.

That can be VERY good or VERY bad, depending on the man involved. I STILL don't know enough about Edwards to make a call on that.

That having been said, maybe we dodged a bit of a bullet here. God damn. Folding VP, SecDef *and* all foreign policy into one office? Kee-rist. I'm going to need a bit more evidence on this one. I'd like to know the source.

Cheney really does all that now, along with the top spot behind the scenes.

Nothing I read in the newsweek story isn't something we've largely already heard.

One - trying to bite his lip and say "yes - yes -my guy won" and the other openly saying Dems had a fuck-wad candidate .....

..needless to say my subscrition to Newsweek is cancelled and the letter to management explaining why is on its way.

I wouldn't have voted for Kerry and McCain if that fact was out in the air that they would try to merge DoD and VPOTUS, and give him control over foreign policy.

If this is true, my respect for Kerry has gone down considerably.

..."If this is true, my respect for Kerry has gone down considerably."

I couldn't agree more.

The articles on Bush are all praising and worshipping him and the Kerry articles are all slamming him.

Fuck the mainstream right wing media!

I would of voted for him. If he had beaten Bush in 2000 I may have voted for him over Al Gore.

McCain is a fine man with solid principles. He's had his stains on his record in the past, but has proven himself to be a great leader.

He did everything he could to help Bush. That alone shows that he doesn't have solid principles, at least not ones that have anything to do with being a good person. He is helping destroy America and supporting killing people around the world by helping Bush.