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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 09:48 AM Original message |
To those who say we shouldn't give up on the Bible belt, read'em and weep |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. yes, and that's why attacking red-state welfare... |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yup I agree. The Red Welfare State tactic is the ticket.. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yep. We need to borrow a page from Grover Norquist's book, and |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Yes - especially since we don't control it now.... n/t |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Yes - especially since we don't control it now.... n/t |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Mondale ran as being anti-deficit |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
4. Take a GOOD hard look at who's Governor of VA and WV and NC |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:04 AM Original message |
We tried with North Carolina. West Virginia was a swing state four years |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. the simple act of picking John Edwards, a man who was running |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. This is bigger than a few McAuliffesque targeting maneuvers. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Perhaps, but I saw a 'Don't Let Kerry Take Your Guns' sticker the |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Guns are a big issue EVERY YEAR in rural america |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Damn! You said it! |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. A-fricken-Men |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Not That Progressive |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
5. Kentucky 46-45, 1996 |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Because they have RNC values, not progressive values. eom |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. They just miraculously moved 20 points right in eight years |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Polarization is a fact. A tragic fact, but the Rethugs have made it a |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Seems like *you* are trying to make it a reality |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Let's be honest--we have to do damage control for the next 20 years |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. Because the fundamentalist Christians are gaining ground here in KY |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. oops |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. I have just declared /you/ a lost cause. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Fine. I will continue to work for a progressive agenda throughout |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. have fun losing elections |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. My goal is to make sure the federal government doesn't prevent |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. bunker mentality. real progressive. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Enjoy ordering the sea to retreat, King Canute. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. you're running for president? |
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5thGenDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 05:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Well, you seemed to be a bang-up job of it this year |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. You're already working against that. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Let's be honest. The post-election week is the time we say stuff |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. for the record, not all new yorkers are passive-aggressive shitheads |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Oh, I agree. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. He's not a New Yorker, anyway. |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. "real New Yorkers" immigrated from somewhere |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. I am so tired of state bashing |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "to totally ignore us will just make the problem a lot worse." |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. No, it didn't happen |
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kskiska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
23. One thing we won't be dealing with next time |
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DemocracyInaction (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
28. It's called education |
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faithfulcitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. really? I thought repug's are generally more, not less, educated |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
32. Take same-sex marriage off the ballots and out of the campaign |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Exactly |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. You forgot Utah!!! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. But they're not part of the geographic belt. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. But that information does not support this poster's contention |
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The Chronicler (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. The problem is by not being competitive in these places, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. We have California and the Northeast similarly locked up. |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. but they're getting more and more of them, and were losing them |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. A Moderate Southerner |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Don't be so sure about California my friends |
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The Chronicler (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. NY = GOP governor, CA = GOP governor |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. No but they can |
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The Chronicler (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. MA = GOP governor, NYC = GOP mayor |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Bloomberg is a total RINO. |
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carnie_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
55. We should have let |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-05-04 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
58. You're just looking at the buckle - not the entire belt.. |
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