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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 02:07 PM
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Bush's great unmasking.
The worst fears of many on this group have to do with what a "reelected" Bush administration would do, unfettered by the constraints of "reelection" considerations. Particularly with respect to abortion unfriendly Supreme Court Justices, initiation of further wars and the continuation of the conquest of Iraq, more legislation institutionalizing religion and a climate of discrimination against gays, and the dismantling of social progams.

I share these concerns, but some of my worry was mitigated by the fact that I never have felt that Bush was a "true believer" in many of these causes and that his whole posture as a Bible-thumping born again was entirely for political expediency. I didn't think he was a PNAC true believer in American hegemony, but implemented the policies of his PNAC true believers like Wolfowitz because they served him well at a time when his political fortunes were in the toilet. The only policies where true conviction can be seen in the consistency and zeal of their execution is in tax cutting for the wealthy and deregulation of business.

The only comfort in believing this about Bush is that if this were true, he might actually be LESS inclined to pursue some of these policies in a second term if it appeared they might damage his corporate cronies, or the Republican party over the long term, in any way. (Of course if the Republicans truly have supreme control over election results, until that is changed, they need have no fear over electoral or party consequences of any of their actions.)

But I've always been concerned that I might be wrong. That maybe he really IS a true believer, or may have become one over time, being indoctrinated with his own propaganda over the years.

Assuming for the moment that this election result holds up, I guess America and the world get to find out now...
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:22 PM
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1. kick
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:26 PM
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2. I share your concerns
And I too watch and wait to see what happens.
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ethereal Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:33 PM
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3. Eloquent, as usual.
I think the main concern for * and his circle is ultimate, unfettered power. It's pretty clear to me that they aren't answering to any Christian God, but are using that premise as a crowbar to maneuver the mainstream sheep into assisting with their cause. I say "assisting" because they are willing to cheat, lie, defraud and yes, even kill to achieve their ends.


I'm related to a lot of these mainstream braindead, and it's amazing how their intellect justs shuts off in regard to this administration. I'm talking educators with higher degrees, successful business owners and otherwise bright people.

Interestingly, it's the scientists, doctors and nurses in my extended family who realize it's all bullshit.

And yes, we are going to get the chance in spades to see which end of your theories holds true. And the gathering storm draws near. I fear it will move faster than we can keep up with.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:37 PM
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4. Excellent post

One of his strong traits is he selfishness.
He cares about G W B.

I really don't think he would care how he left the party unless it was to another Bush.

I can't imagine him getting out of his sick bed, like Clinton, to help another candidate.

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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:27 PM
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5. he didn't even
stay with his daughter when she had emergency appendectimy-
instead, he made some snide comment like, "she has to hurry up and get better so she can get her room clean"
and left her alone in ...Fla?
while he went on with his festivities-

He is a narcisist- and a cruel leader-
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:58 PM
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6. Don't forget he wanted to put them on a leash
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 09:59 PM by goclark
When Kerry made the nice comment about his girls during the debate, he said something under his breath like,"soimetimes they need to be on a leash."

Great moral values for a dad.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:04 PM
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7. I think that was a joke in reference to some of the trouble the
girls had gotten into (underage drinking etc.). I didn't think that comment was so bad, personally. But it doesn't change my overall low opinion of the man.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:18 PM
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8. He's for real
He's a true believer which, IMO, is far worse than a cynical manipulator. He swallowed the PNAC lunacy whole. He thinks he can remake the Middle East by force, and even if it fails it will trigger the End Times. Ditto for the debt, he thinks The Rapture will come before the shit hits the economic fan. He is a madman.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:20 PM
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9. I absolutely think it is much worse if he is a true believer, than a
cynical puppet or puppeteer. We will see...
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:27 PM
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10. I think you are correct
I'm not convinced that he was a true believer in the beginning. I am concerned that he gets more cocky and delusional by the day. His first post re-election press conference was scary. Power corrupts.
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ethereal Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:04 PM
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11. I doubt he even understands
the theories behind PNAC. He needs the adulation, the fawning, and the title. He lets Lumpy and GoFuckYourself do all the daily stuff. That's hard work, y'know.
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