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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:10 PM
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Poll question: Binary Hillary Clinton Poll
Would you vote for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primaries?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:11 PM
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1. She is my first choice...
I've wanted her since she ran for the senate in 2000.
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CMO Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:12 PM
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2. Yes...
she would make a great prez.
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:13 PM
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3. no
Mark Warner or Evan Bayh.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:13 PM
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4. I'm looking forward to the solidarity of DU during primary season
but I think I can wait a few years before starting up 2008
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:15 PM
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6. we need to nip this in the bud...
Edited on Sat Nov-06-04 07:17 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
The Democratic party is becoming a laughingstock.....


People are literally laughing at our fecklessness....


The only comforting thing is the last time the Pugs had so much power was on the dawn of the New Deal...
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:22 PM
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7. Yes, we NEED the solidarity a primary helps foster
We MUST start NOW!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:24 PM
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8. I see she's polling at 27%
I hope that's a ceiling and not a floor...

I have no dog in this fight...


I will support the person in the primary who I think has the best chance of beating the Pugs...
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:32 PM
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11. but the dogs must fight NOW
I am grateful for your effort to resolve this issue early. I'm sure this will get nailed down once and for all, so we won't be bothered with it later on.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:34 PM
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12. the progressives on this board hate her for her political expediency..
the pragmatists don't like her because she can't win..


she will never catch on here....
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:28 PM
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22. Uh Ya Think We Should Kinda Hold Our Seats In 2006???
We could be seeing a veto-proof house and Senate up ahead...planning and pipedreaming about 2008 at this point is a worthless exercize.

And for anyone who cares (no one), I would never vote for Hillary.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:15 PM
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5. Yes, I would n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:25 PM
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9. No way.
I don't believe she has a chance in Hell of being elected President.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:26 PM
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10. I think she'd be great actually
She can do the small town girl thing. She'd make history. She throws the right wing off their game right off the bat. They hate her so much it will be to her advantage.

Instead of trying to placate right wing hate I say give him what they fear most - Hillary Clinton. And watch their fuckin' heads explode. Their hatred would turn people towards Clinton.

Plus there's the ol' two for one thing again.

And I think she's a decent person who can reach middle of the road Americans.

Hillary in '08!
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mad_hatter Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 07:42 PM
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13. I'd love to. Unfortunately...
she can't win. You'd see an almost 100% turnout by angry white men. Add their devoted little "yes honey" wives, and we're out of the race before we've even left the gate. We're not there yet. As a matter of fact, after this Tuesday, I'd say we're far from it.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:02 PM
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14. As an "angry white man," this post disgusts me.
I've been married twice, and never had a devoted little "yes honey" wife, nor would I ever want one. ... for more than 15 minutes.

Under the principle of "can't win" people should just fucking vote for Bush*!! That's how principles, values, and ethics are abandoned. One coward starts running away and pretty soon it's a stampede to the sewer! But there's solace in having company in the "winner's circle," even submerged in putrescence, huh?

Once upon a time, people understood "What gaineth a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?" 'Tis sad indeed that so many self-proclaimed "Christians" lead the way in forgetting this.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:07 PM
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16. Nobody Is Saying A Candidate Should Be Disqualified Because Of Her Gender.
I don't question her intelligence just her electability...


And Hillary Rodham Clinton is a pragmatist...So folks who oppose her are making a pragmatic decision themselves.. She can't win...

It's not like we are rejecting Mother Teresa....
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:37 PM
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25. Have we forgotten 2004 already?
I know I'D like to, but it was only four days ago.

60 million people based their votes on how they felt about us pesky queers and how we threaten traditional America.

NOW... For just a moment, forget what's right, wrong, smart, dumb, feminist, misogynist, and think objectively what the response would be if we tried to put a SKIRT in the White House at this point.

I don't want 4 MORE years (assuming we survive these next four, which I'm not sure we will at this point).

Hillary would be a fantastic president. NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN. Not in this generation.
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FellowAmerican Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:06 PM
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15. She wouldn't help
she comes with too much bagage. She is just not 'liked' by most people - regardless of her intelligence.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:16 PM
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17. Yes, if she was the best choice, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat!
If she wasn't the best choice, then of course not.
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Heath.Hunnicutt Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:19 PM
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18. Why don't we just run Satan while we are at it?
Hilary Clinton is a wonderful Senator and deserves to be President.

However, the Right has demonized her that her running would be another 'gay marriage' hard spot for the opposition to rally around. Her image with them is horribly motivating in the direction of getting out their vote.

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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:31 PM
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19. Is she going to apologize for her IWR?
She can run in the upcoming Iraqi elections.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 08:34 PM
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20. no- that was a vote born out of political expediency...
I oppose her nomination on the same grounds...
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MaggieSwanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:55 PM
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28. I cannot forget/forgive that vote either. n/t
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:18 PM
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21. I wouldn't even vote for her in GE
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:31 PM
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24. ouch-why.....
I don't think she can win but i don't actively dislike her...


But then i'm a yellow dog Democrat...
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:05 PM
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30. I'm not going into a littany of what I don't like about her,
but I just don't. I wouldn't lift a finger to vote for her.
If she is nominated, good luck.... :P
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HR_Pufnstuf Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:30 PM
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23. Nope
Vote Obama/Dean '08.

I am HR. Thanks for your time and I approve this message.



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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:52 PM
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26. She would have to have made
a significant shift to the left on the issues. Then she would have to convince me of it. If I were convinced, I might consider voting for her. I respect her but she's a little to far to the right for me.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:54 PM
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27. She voted for some of the worst bills, including bankruptcy bill
which hurts kids and credit card holders and is a windfall to the credit card companies.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 09:57 PM
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29. The bankruptcy bill sucks...
And it's punitive without being productive...

If someone can't pay their bills you can't throw them in jail...

All that stupid bill will do is allow the creditors to harass people in the absence of bankruptcy protection that prevents you from being harassed..
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:13 PM
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31. No
I think Hillary would make a fantastic president. But unfortunatly she is too desivisive a figure to be make a good candidate. I don't understand why the freepers hate her so, and I don't really care, but she does rub too many swing voters the wrong way.

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Senator Lamb Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 10:21 PM
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32. please no
polarizing, from a secure blue state, comes with baggage. if anything from 2004, we learned that we need a politician to win "middle america" as much as i hate this dominance these so called "true ameicans of the heartland" have on our system, we must play the game so we can save our country in the process.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:55 AM
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33. My deep hope is ...

... my deep hope is that Nancy Pelosi will become the first female president after Bush and Cheney are impeached in 06!!! But I don't think that will happen!!!

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StickNCA Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:59 AM
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34. For VP, YES!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 01:37 AM
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35. Not only will I not vote for her in the primary....
...I will not vote for her, or any other DLC sellout candidate in the General election either.

The amount of pro DLC and "only the DLC can save us" threads posted here in the last four days is evidence enough that those neocon traitors are scared that their days are numbered.

And they damn well should be.

Hillary can be New York's Senator as long as the people of that state are willing to tolerate her. But as far as President, it will never happen.
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