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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:28 PM
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Is Moveon.org speaking about the fraud?
I find this to be very strange. As many of you have pointed out, the silence is eerie. We are not hearing from such outspoken Dems as Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Howard Dean, or Michael Moore. What in the **is going on?

To make matters even stranger, I just went to the moveon.org site and there is no mention of fraud there either. I am so disappointed in them;they are a local organization that my husband and I gave generously to when we maxed out on our Kerry contributions. I'm sure some of you from this board have already e-mailed them with the info. Aren't they listening to Bev Harris or looking at the numbers on their own? SOMETHING IS REALLY WEIRD here, folks. Anyone know what it is? Heck, anyone have a guess? Cuz I am flummoxed.:crazy: :eyes:
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lessthanjake Donating Member (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:36 PM
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1. They dont want to look like sore losers
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:37 PM
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2. Is there really a big difference between a loser and a sore loser?
Edited on Sun Nov-07-04 12:38 PM by lizzy
What are they afraid of?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 12:38 PM
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3. But moveon.org
had integrity and intelligence. Don't they? Why would it just disappear over night? Until now, they have shown incredible bravery.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 08:10 PM
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7. You just answered the question
On why they aren't screaming fraud
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StickNCA Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:56 PM
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10. Son't know anymore about intelligence and integrity
but they sure got a lot of my money that I really didn't see much of a return on.

When it comes to it after being in business for what 7 years now, and the millions and millions of dollars they've collected the record doesn't look to good in my opinion.

http://www.moveon.org/victories.html


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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:07 PM
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4. Any moveon members out there?
Has anyone heard anything?
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:18 PM
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6. The only thing I received was
a letter from the local rep telling us our efforts in my area gave Kerry the win (locally of course). That was it.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 03:12 PM
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5. They feel like us
they put their heart and soul into this, and despite that effort, Kerry lost anyway. They're probably relaxing or putting their efforts into their own projects now. They'll be back, just like we will.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 09:16 PM
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8. The locals are alive and some are informed
There was a meeting on Thursday in my area to regroup but I couldn't go to it. Today there was a less formal one with roughly 20 people that I went to. About 3 people had a clue about the fraud, most didn't and thought my tinfoil hat was too tight - until I pulled out my laptop and started showing them data.

From what I saw at our local level, step one was to commit to keeping the groups intact. Step two was to define our goals. Right now we agreed that issues need reframing (in preparation for defending Jennifer Granholm 2006), we are building our network now that the paid people have evaporated, and there is a new concern about voter fraud in our little group that I intend to put to good use.

I don't know how to get the info up the chain to the top level.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-04 11:11 PM
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9. Thanks for the info
although it's a little depressing that the members seemed so unaware of problems with the vote count. I'm glad you set them straight.
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