So Junior spat upon the Evangelicals by cashiering Ashcroft.

What will their response be?

Held off by excuses of the power of the evil liberals, the Fundies have marched on, lock-step, without getting any real payoffs for the last four years, and now that they've delivered the faithful, they will want their due. Smirky's nuked their hero now, and there are many craws within which that won't sit all that well.

They're not as controllable as the monied corporatists who rule the party think; what will they do?

Is this a carefully orchestrated prelude to much more substantial concessions to the religious primitives, or is this arrogance writ large by the now ascendant El Supremo? Never underestimate the sloppiness of the true believers.

Methinks it won't sit well with the incredibly faithful, unless moves for their core agenda are immediately forthcoming.

Your thoughts?

has been wanting to for some time now. bush wouldn't accept it before the election.

Lost his gallbladder, could have lost his pancreas and liver. My dad had the same thing, although not as severe. It takes a lot out of you. My dad wants to retire from *his* job, and he's in much better shape than Asscrack is.

Liver so are you saying he had a Liver transplant?

Pancreas and liver are insta-death items. Can't lose them. But this disorder causes major inflamation of both due to the general pain the gallbladder is inflicting on the surrounding tissue. That's laymens terms obviously. Bottom line, this can certainly kill.

The only thing my dad (and Asscrack) had removed was the gallbladder. But that's major surgury and my dad, while in better shape than most Marines half his age, is still not quite what he was before.

had his gb removed. It used to be a long scar. Now they make a 3 inch incision and remove it. DH had it and recovered fairly quickly.

i do remember how he came back looking thin and worse than he looked before. i can see this contributed to his decision to leave.

He was the sop thrown to the Extremo-fundies, and now he's going away. He's going away right after the transcendant megavictory brought forth by the deeply devout, who've long seethed about their lack of payback.

I still don't buy that he'd voluntarily leave unless on life support.

Junior REALLY owes them now, whether he knows it or not, and they're MUCH more bent on their fantasy world conquest frenzy than the monarchists realize.

Now he has to make an obvious gesture; what will it be?

...He has made America safe from terra-ists, so his job is done.

Well Geezus, John Boy. Maybe you should have mentioned that BEFORE the "election"??

Don't do a whole lot of thinking for themselves (much less actually read their bibles, but that's a whole other thread), and don't care WHAT DUbya does, since he's God's chosen representative anyway.

It's a question of winning. Never underestimate the zeal of the true believers, and never dismiss the mix of intelligence among the flock. Smarts aren't an innoculation against delusion; they're often a necessary precursor. Also, it's crazy or some form of comfy denial to disavow the initiative and personal drive of many of them.

Just as many very smart people are virulent racists because of their personal history of being impeded by those of inferior circuitry, many of the unquestioning and driven faithful are incensed by the uncertainty and lack of clarity by the diffuse people who muck up their world. It's very dangerous to assume that those of divergent (even if primitive) beliefs are somehow inferior.

I don't mean this as a recrimination, just as a word to the wise.

Are radically right wing and fundamentalist Christian. A couple of family memebers by marriage I suspect of being closet racists (that's one good thing about the South -- at least there the racists aren't afraid to come out and admit it).

These people are doctors, lawyers, engineers, and occasionally have good points, RW talking points that at least make me stop and think. They are not stupid by any stretch of the imagination. There is something they all share, though, something I'm not quite able to define. THe best I can come up with is a "lack of empathy." These particular friends and family also share some sort of common lack of thought, in the sense that they don't always want to think, or apply their morality to their political beliefs. I'm certainly no psychologist, but a great deal has been made across the Internet regarding "cognitive dissonance."

There's just something not right amongst this particualr crowd. I truly, honestly believe that George W. Bush could sodomize an aborted fetus on live TV, and the mebers of the religious right that I know would find some way of rationalizing it.

I certainly don't view fundamentalists as "primitive." I don't go to church as regularly as I should anymore, but I still go. Hell, I even briefly taught Sunday school! I was lucky enough (or perhaps dilligent enough) to find a rather liberal Christian church/denomination.

As far as Alberto Gonzalez goes, I suspect that if their pastors and W tell them that he's a Christian, and he's an anti-choice homophobe, that it'll be good enough for them.

So they canned him to bring in someone who was...

The WH probably didn't want to upset the Fundies...

Now what I am concerned about is that the WH pres corp knew about this long ago. Why didn't they make mention of this before the election?

bush could eat toddler fingers on live TV while proclaiming himself the Second Coming and calling for puppy sacrifice and they'd still love him.

hispanic butt by appointing Gonzales

He has big challenges ahead. There are a hell of a lot of statues over there in that SC building.