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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:01 AM
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Poll question: Kerry People: Whom Do You Prefer, if not Kerry?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:02 AM
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1. Those votes better be from Kerry people.
:hi:
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:24 AM
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48. LOL
I choose to look at the thread responses instead of the poll data. B-)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:02 AM
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2. I am not voting in this poll, but I am betting that...
Clark will be the beneficiary, despite the fact that Clark is against IWR and the preemptive war.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:10 AM
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9. We're electing a President
We already LOST the war debate. I really don't want to try to run on it again next year. We LOST.

When Clark talks on foreign policy and security, it is clear he doesn't need to talk to an advisor to know what to do. That is the kind of credibility anyone who says they were against IWR is going to have to have. A doctor from Vermont just isn't going to cut it.

And nobody was for this unilateral preemptive war and no candidate supports Bush's preemptive doctrine. That's just a total red herring.

Bottom line, I want a candidate who can win. I believe Kerry can, I believe Clark can. The rest I have serious doubts.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:30 AM
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23. We haven't LOST the war debate--the war is still going on!
The Iraqi people don't want to live under an American jackboot, or under an American-sponsored Saddam, like that sniveling puke Chalabi.

People are dying in Iraq everyday, and most of them are innocent Iraqi civilians being killed by American bullets.

We haven't lost the war debate--the war is still going on!

You can expect thousands of antiwar demonstrators at the Republican and Democratic conventions next year.

Get used to it! We won't be silenced until the last American soldier, bureaucrat, and contractor is out of Iraq!

BTW, Kerry did endorse pre-emptive war today in a story posted in LBN.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:14 AM
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45. I bet that Clarkies are just voting here
as they are on every poll with a Clark box in it :)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:05 AM
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3. Clark
Kerry people, if you vote please sign in. I used to would have been for Edwards, but Clark is strongest against Bush. I don't want to take any chances. I also like Gephardt because he's always been for the working people.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:10 AM
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8. Clark.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:06 AM
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4. Kerry is a true liberal
They certainly will not support the two Republican-lite candidates.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:13 AM
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13. Yeah... true liberal......
That's why he's got PNAC advisers and wants to appoint James Baker :eyes:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:15 AM
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16. Who are the PNAC advisers? Are you sure they're in PNAC?
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 02:19 AM by oasis
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:18 AM
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18. Name his alleged PNAC advisers
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 02:19 AM by _Jumper_
Name one Secretary of State that has had a more balanced view of the I/P conflict than James Baker.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 05:29 PM
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43. Saying something doesn't make it so.
Otherwise, Dean would actually have a record of Democratic accomplishment, instead of that of a GOP lickspittle.

Here's somthing that IS true. Ho-Ho is a draft dodger. That's why, no matter how angry his supporters act, Coward Dean is unelectable.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:08 AM
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5. For me, it was a split between Edwards and Clark
But Clark is the only option up there.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:09 AM
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6. I'm having a hard time believing Edwards has a chance.
But maybe you or someone could convince me.
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:13 AM
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12. It is not a matter of who has a chance
It is a matter of who I like. Actually, I would have preferred Kucinich to Edwards.
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:10 AM
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7. Clark
Edwards and Clark are neck-and-neck for my #2 spot, so I voted for the General.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:12 AM
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10. You aren't going to get accurate results from this you know
According to the last presidential poll Kerry has 38 people on DU who listed Kerry as their first choice. It's 2am and you already have 11 votes, 10 of which are for Clark. Almost a third of those DUers who prefer Kerry are here at this hour? Unlikely. There are all kinds of pro Clark threads being posted right now.

It doesn't take a brain surgeon...

:shrug:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:15 AM
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15. These polls are only for recreation and entertainment purposes.
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 02:20 AM by BurtWorm
They are not scientific. ;)

Actually, I'm just trying to get some instant gratification from a nagging question. I am learning that a majority of people who responded to this poll have picked Clark.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:17 AM
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17. Um, that's because it's mostly Clark people on here right now
I think they cover the place in shifts, to tell you the truth.

:D
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:20 AM
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19. I could believe that!
;)
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:23 AM
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20. To tell you the truth, not everyone lives east of the Mississippi.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:25 AM
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21. But how many of you west of the Mississippi are Kerry supporters?
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 02:26 AM by BurtWorm
I believe 30 are from Massachusetts alone! (That would leave 8.) ;)
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:30 AM
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24. Lifelong Dem liberals are aware of Kerry. They're everywhere.
:-)
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:34 AM
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27. Here's a clue that it's not real Kerry supporters voting
There is only ONE vote that chooses the "It will be Kerry" option. If this were a poll asking the same thing to Dean supporters, ever supporter would be choosing the Dean option. I highly doubt that Kerry supporters would choose Clark and Dean OVER Kerry.

:shrug:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:37 AM
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29. The question is: "Kerry People: Whom Do You Prefer, if not Kerry?"
Assuming that Kerry drops out after SC, who will the Kerry supporters support?

The problem with this poll, as all DU polls, is that we have no way of telling how many of the people voting are really Kerry supporters.

As I said earlier, I am not voting in this poll.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:37 AM
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30. We must have objectivity
Able to look at the whole picture, the good of the party, the good of the country. Doesn't have to be immature my way or the highway.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:32 AM
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25. me me me!!!
Lots of Kerry supporters out here. We're environmentalists, remember?
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:35 AM
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28. These votes aren't people who choose Kerry first, though
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 02:36 AM by KaraokeKarlton
except for the one that actually chose Kerry...lol
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:45 AM
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33. Besides IG who didn't vote, there are clearly non-Kerry folks present.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:50 AM
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39. Me! I'm in Geppy territory, St louis and believe Geppy supporters
will line up behind Kerry if Geppy doesn't make the cut.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:32 AM
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26. It doesn't take a brain surgeon
or even a rocket scientist. Your math and logic are fuzzy. I'm sure there are more than 38 Kerry supporters on DU, do you think all of them voted in the poll you referenced?

And by the way, DU is not on a time delay, it's real time and on the West Coast it's only 11:30.

Oh, and I also voted Clark.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:12 AM
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11. Sharpton
Kidding... I really don't know. Clark or Dean I suppose...not convinced either of them would win but...
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:14 AM
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14. Maybe Kucinich
I'd have to dust off my bong to believe he'd win though...
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kerryistheanswer Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:26 AM
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22. Kucinich or Edwards
You should have included all the candidates. I also like Gephardt.

If either Dean or Clark won, I'd definitely vote him.
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moz4prez Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:38 AM
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31. Clark supporter here voting Clark
j/k! j/k!
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:42 AM
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32. That actually was funny!
After I opened the post, anyway. :o
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:30 AM
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34. Edwards- The GOP really IS scared of him
I have heard the most convincing descriptions which point out the following:
1. He could win crucial southern states.
2. He is really bright and articulate.
3. He is incredibly smooth and pleasant and projects positive asscoiations.
4. He, like Clinton, came from a humble background and has the self-made man image.


I like Clark, but his lack of campaign experience make me cautious.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:37 AM
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35. Other=Edwards
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:45 AM
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36. Kerry supporter here.
I didn't vote, I can't decide between Edwards and Clark.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:50 AM
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40. I honestly don't get the Edwards thing.
Obviously, or I would have included him. I mean he's in the bottom five. What's going to make him come on fire?
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:15 AM
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42. Blame the lack of press
he's obviously too boring to bother the sheeple with.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:47 AM
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37. I wish non-Candidate X's supporters wouldn't vote in these polls.
I'd actually like to know where Kerry's support WOULD go, frankly... :shrug:
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:47 AM
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38. Gephardt
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:02 AM
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41. Here's some info from NH about second choice
This is from a poll in NH in mid-Nov:

Likely Democratic primary voters who expressed a preference for a candidate were also asked who their second choice would be in the New Hampshire primary. Overall, voters were rather evenly split between Kerry (21%), Dean (17%), Clark (14%), Edwards (11%), Lieberman (11%), and Gephardt (10%) with 5 percent favoring some other candidate and 11 percent undecided. One-third of Dean voters (30%) say they prefer Kerry as their second choice, 39 percent of Kerry voters say they prefer Dean.

http://www.unh.edu/survey-center/dem111403.pdf
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:11 AM
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44. heh...I doubt these votes are all Kerry people.
Kerry people tend to be liberals who are into progressive solutions, and they're staunch environmentalists, and also believe in the Tough Dove approach to foreign policy and military issues.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:23 AM
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47. as long as it doesn't total more than 73
which is the current DU poll total. It's hard to say why people are choosing Kerry. Do they want a liberal? electability? a military Dem?
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:20 AM
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46. Clark, Edwards, DK
the order changes daily.
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