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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:36 PM
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What is it about 9/11 that makes so many Americans, well, STUPID?
So it turns out that Bush did so well in the election not because of the Fundie
vote, but because a lot of folks who disagree with him about everything else
think he's doing a good job on Terror/Foriegn policy. The pre-election polls
warned us.

There was terrorism and terrorist attacks all over the world long befor 9/11.
The U.S. had been repeatedly warned that our turn was coming, and most
of us were in denial about it.

So now otherwise sensible people think we have to enact this Kick Butt
foriegn policy that we don't have the money or soldiers to back up, even
if one can accept it on moral grounds.

I posted this over on Editorials, but it sank. It points out just how nuts it is
for the U.S. to imagine it is protecting the world from Terrorism:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x84447
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:37 PM
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:41 PM
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3. It took you four paragraphs to tell us we're irrelevant...
Wishful thinking, junior. Don't you have some zits that need popping?
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:47 PM
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7. The military could use some smart guys like you.
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RuleofLaw Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:48 PM
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8. Since your mentions things
not in the Constitution, like Social Security, I would appreciate it if you could show me where it says any thing about an air force:

US Constitution

Section. 2.
Clause 1: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html

Using your logic, we should not have an air force, or maybe the president should not be the CiC of the Air Force :crazy:
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:25 PM
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18. These people are blinded by fear
And an irrational fear at that. It makes no logical sense for anyone to be afraid of terrorism when your neck of the woods is 500-2000 miles from the intended target--and your hometown has little or no chance of being marked for attack.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:39 PM
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2. Murkans didn't need an excuse to get stupid
but a big event made them big stupid

the level of propaganda around 9-11 and the bushgang's ability to capitalize on it is unprecedented in world history. Murkans are nothing if not easy to influence via television.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:42 PM
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4. WJC shoulda let the millenium attack happen
he thwarted a terrorist attack and was accused of wagging the dog. Meanwhile, * let the country be attacked, and is considered some sort of hero. Welcome to the inside-out world of Big Media. There'll be a special place in hell for all the media whores who slobbered on this guy for his entire term
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:53 PM
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10. WJC is not a customs official in Port Angeles, WA
they, and an nervous muslim terrorist, thwarted that attack. bill may have got the FBI to get off their duffs & stop it after that.

the answer to this thread is simple: 9-11 happened HERE, albeit to a bunch of godless homo-loving liberals. nothing is real unless it happens in america. fear works.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:42 PM
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5. I've been thinking
that 9/11 did a whole lot more damage to the psyche of many Americans than we initially realized. I think many Americans (most notably those who live in states that have little or no attack "value") got seriously screwed up in the head over 9/11. Where there was even the slightest opening in their heads for bigotry and hatred, that event broke it wide open and now they are so freakin' scared of "foreigners" they can't even think rationally. That's the only answer I have.

I still can't get my head around the fact that 9/11 happened on shrub's watch and these people just don't get that HE'S the one who didn't protect them.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:49 PM
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9. Yes, people seem to be projecting a whole lot of other stuff onto....
the events of 9/11.

I agree, we have underestimated the psychic damage, but it still makes
no sense to me. Why do we have such a stong need for revenge over
this when most of the actual victims (9/11 families) want no part of killing
others in the name of their relatives?
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 01:46 PM
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6. fear
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fwiff Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:07 PM
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11. And "Us" vs. "Them", and it doesn't matter who "them" are
I still can't get over how protective everyone, probably taking their cue from the media, is about banning any kind of discourse and constructive criticism.
Look at how emotionally mature most of these people are: these are the same people that lash out at anything when things don't go their way.
That so many people keep citing that 9/11 and Iraq are related, and no one calls fear mongering cheney on it. Even his daughters were spouting that s**t during the election and saying in the next sentence that they weren't.
:wtf:
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:13 PM
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12. The media
The round-the-clock coverage by too much media for far longer than is reasonable created the mass hysteria and stupidity that has gripped the country for the last three years. In years past, a tragedy was covered briefly, people were allowed to process it and move on. We've never been able to move on, with * and the media slamming it in our face every time he wants to exploit it to get away with something else.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 10:06 PM
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15. Good point about people not being able to...
process their feelings about 9/11 and move on. I never thought of it
quite that way.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:18 PM
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13. It seems that Americans can't think either logically or rationally.
If they could, they'd understand that they have a far greater chance of dying in a car crash (40,000+ per year) than in a terrorist attack.

Furthermore, they'd understand that an attack on the local Agway in East Overshoe is so remote as to be ridiculous.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 02:25 PM
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14. East Overshoe...snarf
I've got a cousin from there!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:04 PM
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16. They are becoming less stupid on a daily basis. Americans are
waking up to the fact that our government played a role in 9-11 and its cover-up. It has taken a painfully long time (at least to those of us who knew 9-11 was a con job from the start), but people are starting to wake up.

It sure is frustrating though, isn't it?

Many more people also are waking up to how incredibly innapropriate it was to carpet bomb Afghanistan for ten months, murdering tens of thousands of people who did nothing to us, in order to apprehend a handful of ALLEGED criminals.
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rickeagle Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:41 PM
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20. And Osama is still making videos........
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 12:58 PM
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23. Hi rickeagle!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:16 PM
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17. Yes, Fear....and what is so amazing is that many of the people that are...
afraid are the ultra right fundies who "know" that they will be "saved" and end up in Heaven....which makes me totally suspicious that these people of "faith" have any faith at all. I think that much of organized religion has become a big tent revival-type, take them to the cleaners fake job that has many, many people either fooled, or they are just hiding behind it.

Hideous...pathetic....our culture is being driven backwards by the flat earth society that is now running the country!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:37 AM
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22. Yes, faith is the opposite of fear and bigotry.....
As a spiritual seeker mysel,f I have often had those same thoughts about
fundamentalists. When they say "faith" it seems what they really mean is
obedience and conformity.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 11:28 PM
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19. I have always said that the tragedy of 9/11 saved Bush's ass.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 12:11 AM
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21. Fear, jingoism, and sentimentality
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