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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:58 PM
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AAR is almost worthless
this morning..........

Not a peep about recounts on Unfiltered (at least that I heard) and Franken is totally "biographical" so far.....

Why the silence?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:01 PM
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1. Come on, they covered the CIA purge, cabinet departures
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:02 PM
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2. Franken and his cohort have lost ALL of my respect.
I can't even pretend they are funny anymore. I'm waiting for Randi. Malloy is great too. The rest......well, at least it's better than Limbaugh stinkin' up the airwaves. I wish Laura Flanders could take Franken's slot.
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maxudargo Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:05 PM
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4. Funny. I can't stand Randi Rhodes.
She's just so much like ... them. She's as grating, shallow, adolescent, and dorky as Limbaugh.

Franken and his sidekick are usually pretty good, though. And I love Garofalo.
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:19 PM
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13. Pretty much Rush's Democratic sister
At least she's on our side.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:15 PM
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32. She is the Democratic counterpart
to that idiot Sean Hannity. I'd love to see them in a shouting match.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:23 PM
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36. I'd love to see her kick his ass in a fight.....she could n/t
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:46 PM
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33. Bullshit..........
There's a difference between propaganda and the truth.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:30 AM
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43. I agree
Edited on Tue Nov-16-04 11:32 AM by Rambis
Show me one time Rush has used a fact on his show. RR has articles and other sources she checks out before she opens her mouth. You might not like her voice but she is right on with her stuff you can't deny that. You can't touch her in an argument because she has outread you already.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:06 PM
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45. Like truth and lies are sisters/counterparts.
It helps to have a solid value system before evaluating these things.
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Kitka Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:18 PM
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23. I agree.
Even though I am probably on the same page as her most of the time, I do not like her presentation at all.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:35 PM
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25. Randi is necessary, and who else can rant about what a Moron * * is
for half an hour and not repeat herself.

I only wish she would not verbally mow down her dissenting callers, and interrupt the others less.

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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:56 PM
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34. I love her calling bullshit on those morons
they aren't there to talk, they are there to spout their crap and hang up.

occassionally she's let one do their thing and that's what happens. they spout crap and hang up.

well they have all of rightwing radio for that. I want randi to take them apart.

that moron mark luthor wouldn't last two seconds with her.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:06 PM
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7. or Thom Hartmann!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:20 PM
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14. Hartmann's my favorite
Intelligent conversation EVERY day.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:29 PM
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17. LOL It sounds like AAR has something for everyone. That's good. (nt)
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:31 PM
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19. Me too. I like Randi and then I record Malloy. I listen to Franken
only because he is on before Randi.

I especially liked it when Randi was talking about Cheney's Lesbian daughter. She called her a "vagitarian" rather than a "vegetarian". That was hilarious to me at that time.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:02 PM
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3. Last week the guys hosting the Majority Report
did a mea culpa.

They explained that during the day, in the peek hours, (Unfiltered, Al Franken, Majority report on air hours) there's so much breaking news, and information coming out of Iraq, that they tend to focus more on stories in that category rather than election or after-election stories.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:05 PM
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5. you mean DaLC Franken? will no longer listen after his attempt to stifle
the recount and fraud investigation effort.

Randi, MR, and Malloy should be good though!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:11 PM
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10. A precinct has a potential 1000 votes total, howver 1500 votes are....
cast in that SAME precinct. Does that NOT look ODD to you Al???

Franken is becoming another Alan Colmes!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:06 PM
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6. Maybe Franken is but the rest is very good.
Ed Schultz is good too.
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Fleurs du Mal Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:18 PM
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12. Ed
He hasn't quite been himself since 11/2.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:55 PM
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29. What do you mean?
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eataTREE Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:08 PM
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8. Ah, the liberal circular firing squad...
...it never ceases.

Yes, by all means let's trash AAR, which is probably the single best thing to happen to the progressive cause in years, because they can't single-handedly reverse the election results.

Randi Rhodes raised some ungodly amount of cash for Bev Harris' BBV group. And for thanks, she gets the whinging of folks like you who don't know when they've got a good thing going.
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:28 PM
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16. yeah, I'm with you there
How quick some of us are to turn on our own support/leadership/platform. Almost makes me wonder how many freepers are here, hypocritically calling themselves DUers. Heh.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:07 PM
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20. I don't think it's about trashing...

Air America... It's about expressing an opinion about which hosts we enjoy more... If someone doesn't like Al Franken, it doesn't mean they're trashing AAR... They're trashing Franken... Right or wrong, it is their right...

Also, how can you call it "progressive", if they won't even address the concerns of their followers... By mostly ignoring our concerns, he has turned off many people who once supported him... I'm not saying he has to agree or even believe fraud took place, it would just be nice for him to address it with a semi-serious tone and not the smirk I hear in his voice... That's all...
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Hephaistos Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:00 PM
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38. Title of thread: "AAR is almost worthless"
How does that relate to "it doesn't mean they're trashing AAR"?

Totally agree with the poster above re: circular firing sqad. If AAR was aiming to please all DU members, they'd have three stations max carrying them.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:11 PM
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9. Why is it called Air America anyway?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:30 PM
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18. Air America used to be the CIA's drugs and weapons shipping company
It's sort of a wry take on that, I'd assume.
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Fleurs du Mal Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:17 PM
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11. Franken has been a bore since the election
Though I still enjoy Morning Sedition and Randi.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:27 PM
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15. It's boring right now.
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 01:27 PM by Connie_Corleone
I don't even know what they're talking about. I tuned in late.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:07 PM
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31. Funny, I like Al more than ever now.
takes all kinds, folks. Al is comforting to hear these days.

I never used to care his "The Oy Oy Oy show" segment, but for some reason, it was never funnier than it was on 11/3.

"The BASTIDS!"
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:07 PM
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46. head in sand - nice and warm. Ignoring voting fraud is sooo sweeet!
falling in the abys - soooo distracting!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:11 PM
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21. Because the recount is probably a fool's errand.
I'm glad all the votes may get counted, but it will likely change nothing.
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:18 PM
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22. Don't listen to white noise, become informed.
Thomm Hartman is super. He is now talking about the most important issue in this country now. Borrow and spend. Borrow from China, Japan, 7 Trillion dollars in debt. Trillion is one thousand billion. LA Times says how fragile this is because of the US dollar decline. World is looking at the US as a bad investment. We are about to collapse. Expect another catastrophe.

Al Franken and Catherine Langford voices goes through my head like a nail, especially their laughing into the mike.
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:25 PM
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24. check out radiopower.org
Thom Hartmann's show is on radiopower.org from 12pm-2pm EST
Peter Werbe is pretty good
The young turks, Mike Malloy, Guy James...other great liberals who AREN'T afraid to talk about what are sometimes labled "non-mainstream" stories...

Lots of great programming. I really enjoy radiopower.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:51 PM
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26. Not worthless to me
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 02:51 PM by mvd
They really helped me after the "election." Laura Flanders was talking about how there will be a recount in Ohio, thanks to our efforts. Haven't heard much more about this. :shrug:
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:51 PM
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27. I HEART AAR!
not perfect, but AWESOME.
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:35 AM
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40. hear hear- In Nashville TN it's All I've Got To Listen To
Thank God for AAR
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:53 PM
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28. AAR has kept me sane in the face of the right wing noise machine
for the past 6 months. How soon you forget what it was like pre AAR. No mainstream truth out there in the media at all, now on in 39 markets and hopefully growing. We need AAR period. I think some of the programs have made a concerted effort to be the moderates about the brewing election scandal. Al has definitely been the most timid, and I haven't enjoyed listening to him as much as a result.

Randi Rhodes and Mike Malloy are definitely the designated agitators on the air, but if you notice Randi has afternoon drive slot, the most listened to and coveted slot in radio. Nobody is muzzling her at AAR, she is the one who worked hard to start the station in the first place. Shallow? She is anything but shallow, as a downthread comment remarks. She is one of the most well-informed and passionate liberals I have ever heard, she lives and breathes this stuff, as she mentions many times, she has no life, she watches C-span and reads everything she can get her hands on about politics and current and past events in her spare time and she puts the information out there constantly. Sure, she's abrasive, and an acquired taste to some. I, having a best friend from Brooklyn, am used to her type of delivery and love it.

Mike Malloy is becoming my favorite of all, even though his time slot guarantees him not as many listeners. He is dark, but funny and dedicated. He got a call the night before the election from a lawyer who told him he knew the election was going to be stolen. Since then, when it was, Mike has been tireless in his efforts, this on no sleep with an infant at home.

If all the broadcasters on AAR reported all day long was the story about election fraud, it would quickly have a marginalizing effect on the stations popularity. They have to cover other issues, and they have to avoid the appearence of being fringe radio. The whole idea was to be a mainstream station, that reported the news truthfully, and discussed issues with a healthy dollop of a sense of humor. There is a reason most of the broadcasters are also humorists, and some stand up comics. It's not supposed to be NPR, hell, NPR isn't even NPR anymore.

Randi is awesome. Al will come around when it looks like things are happening, until then I'm sure he's content to let Randi take the heat. He is after all the name personality that brought the financing to the station, and he is also thinking about a possible career in politics after this, at least that's been rumoured.

Please enough trashing of AAR. It has kept this liberal mom from going off the deep end many a time.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:47 PM
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37. Good for you!
I agree with your opinion of Randi Rhodes. She knows her s**t, and that's why she's abrasive and angry. If we all knew the truth, we'd be pissed, too!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 11:27 AM
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42. Hi bunny planet!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:04 PM
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30. Sorry if I offended folks
I see the recounts as being a big story whether they change the results or not.......

I guess I'm just being a bit ego-centric.....
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:00 PM
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35. Al Franken will be fine once we get him into Wellstone's seat in 2008.
:)
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 09:28 AM
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39. I'm sad that Al is more worried about...

his Senate seat than discussing our concerns...

Just what we need, another Senator who's political correctness is more important than standing up for us... But as long as the media and his critics don't think he's nuts, hey, it's all good...

I never said Franken has to believe fraud took place... But for him to be relevant to ME, he must stand up for us and address our concerns... In a serious tone, not the smirky one he's been using so far... I really do love Al and his show but I am so disappointed in him... Senate seat more important, I guess...
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 10:12 AM
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41. I love Randi
She's educated me a lot.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 12:02 PM
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44. Not all AAR - only the morning guys and Franken - be selective
I removed those shows from my listening - we should all do.
Randi, Malloy, Unfiltered, Laura Flanders - still have my respect and my attention! Majority report - OK, but please, leave 911 conspiracies alone - credibility hole!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:05 AM
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47. Yes, it's all a big conspiracy...HAHAHAHA
It's great we can count on all y'all to jump on all your favorite hosts when after months of good, hard work, you're down and don't like their shows for a week.

It's just sad.

When did everybody become such babies? How are we going to get the majority with crybaby tempertantrums like the ones I've been reading tonight.

People, grow up! When you wah wah wah about how something isn't the way you like it, it sounds so bad.

And yes, the election was a big deal, but we're going to need more to get this election overturned. The Freepers are much more organized than us and their constant litany could not drive Bill Clinton from office, I fear if we have a litany, we will get no further with Bush.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:59 AM
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48. What the hell are you taking about??? The last 2 days I have heard
discussions with Jimmy Carter, David Pryor, Dale Bumpers and Wesley Clark in addition to candid discussions on a range of issues. That was just from Franken.
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Poor Richard Lex Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 07:35 AM
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49. Air America Rocks!
I got XM Sat radio just for that network. The only thing that bugs me is that they play ALAN FUCKING colmes in the evenings. Why is this shill on AAR's XM broadcast? Why can't they just use the regular lineup? Looks like Ill be switching to Sirius
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