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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:32 AM Original message |
Who are the Donkeysaurs? Which Dems are obstacles to reforming |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. Anybody who answers to the initials DLC, NDOL, PPI, or NDN |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That's a whole lot of Democrats. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I think that is too broad |
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Lilli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. I love Donkeysaurs! |
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coloradodem2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
4. Kerry is a donkeysaur? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 02:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I didn't either until he tried to torpedo Dean as DNC chair. eom |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:38 AM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Musta missed that one (though it wouldn't surprise me). |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Reports are that he's campaigning for Vilsack. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 02:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And Kerry and Lieberman are helping them by circling the wagons. |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. And you know this first hand? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Lieberman has gone public. |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. So? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:06 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Howard Dean was anti-modern? |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. to some degree |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 04:04 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Quite honestly, the Dems could stand a little theological fervor in their |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Most of that I don't buy into |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. We're talking in circles, but briefly |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Good luck with that. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. "Dean ran on a platform of knocking people like Lieberman out" |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. "They're running an Anybody But Dean campaign." |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. And we wound up with Mr. Electability. eom |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. Interesting. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The status quo isn't working and will only get worse. |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. So it's your idea of "reform," or the "status quo"? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. For one, the party needs to focus on centrism, not |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. I'm slightly confused (easy to believe, I'm sure)... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I think of "centrism" as being outside of the left-right continuum |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Not sure what you mean. |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. Kerry |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Except that there is a lot more on the line than a personal friendship. |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I never said I wanted Vilsack |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Fair enough. But Lieberman is still a GOP-loving accomodationist |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. "Lieberman is still a GOP-loving accomodationist" |
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lpricanprynces (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
23. Robert Byrd |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 05:36 AM Response to Original message |
26. Wow. You really think Kerry belongs on the list with Lieberman? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:32 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Not in terms of being GOP-lite, but in terms of being an establishment |
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