Could '08 be a Doctor vs. Doctor race?

Dr. Bill Frist vs. Dr. Howard Dean--that might be interesting.

head of the DNC I have money that says he will not run in '08

There is nothing in the rules that says the DNC chair can't run for Prez.

http://a9.g.akamai.net/7/9/8082/v002/www.democrats.org/pdfs/charter.pdf

Provides in pertinent part that DNC chair "shall exercise impartiality and evenhandedness between the presidential candidates and campaings."

Dean would need to resign DNC chair before running for president.

sounds like a good deal to me.

As a Doctor, I would have to say Bill Frist makes the whole profession look bad. He should get out of politics and market himself as the human laxative, I know I get the roo roos every time I see him.:evilgrin:

is Bill Frist? Is he one of those gynecologists who were prevented from practicing their love with women as Shrub claimed? Or yet another one of these fundy Doctors of Theology ala Dr. James(?) Dobson?

.....Heart Surgeon (Yikes). Hopefully the a$$hole won't have a chance to do to much more because he is up for re-election in 2006. Most people here in TN have had enough of Frist and his BS. His family is well known as a bunch of crooks here in TN. His family was gotten for medicaid fraud. Even alot of the republicans don't like Frist because they know what he is all about and that he is a liar and crook!

As far as medical credentials go I can't fault Bill Frist in this area-- he was a graduate of Harvard Med (did his residency up at the Boston hospitals IIRC and became the chief), had a fairly distinguished medical career, and has published some papers in the clinical literature (I've read some of them on Pubmed). He once saved a guy who was suffering a heart attack (or pulmonary embolism-- don't recall exactly) in the US Capitol, and he's been active in raising money for infectious disease research.

This, of course, doesn't mean I'd vote for Frist in a Tennessee minute as a presidential candidate. I don't need personal antipathy to spurn a candidate (though Dubya's made it easy); in spite of his accomplishments as a physician, I don't trust him as a politico. He'd be beholden to the same wingnuts as our current POTUS, and those are the folks who call the shots these days.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

excuse my ignorance...are they Medical doctors or Ph.D.'s?

Who would you go to, Dr Dean or Dr Frist? Real doctor vs voodoo doctor.

dean was an actual physician. Frist got rich off a chain of HMO's whose job is to provide the least possible health care at the highest possible price.

Get over it.

When someone uses the words "get over it", I wonder about their motives, no matter who they are.

All us stupid lil Dean people will pass the word to him that he can just forget it.

And, were you given permission by the mods to decide who can post what?

The same way the decision was made that he would not be the nominee..Gotcha.

I am so glad you let me know that. I also heard today that he won't be allowed to be DNC chair either....not proper enough.

See, isn't it nice to have democracy all wrapped up and neatly packaged. Don't you feel so so good now?

Don't you love being a part of the party that is just like the other party....will decide so the voters don't have to. Whoopeee!!!!!

If he is against him that is the best reason I can think of to say I want him. I can think of many more. Don't get me started.

I don't want to go over the limit.

Every day of every week of every month for the past eight months or so. Even while Kerry was the nominee.

It just gets tiring. He lost the nomination. His followers just will not accept that Dean does not have the skills, experience, and wide appeal that someone running for President of the U.S. needs to have. He made way too many goofs, as is usual with someone inexperienced in the national scene. He's northeastern. And his wife, like Kerry's, proved to be not just no help, but a hindrance to his campaign. Running for President requires both spouses, one reason being that the candidate can then campaign in two places at once.

I like Dean okay. I supported Clark and thought he'd make a great President. But they couldn't even garner support of their own party.

It will take more than the far left part of the Dem. Party to win an election. And those are the only votes that Dean appeals to. Clark appeals to a broad base, I would think, but he is too inexperienced at politicking to actually win, I think. It's over for them, as far as the Presidency.

It makes more sense.

were said about reagan.

Reagan was governor of the largest state in the nation...


He came within a handful of delegates in 76 of knocking off an incumbent president...


And he was a skilled rhetorician from all his years acting and on the rubber chicken circuit...


He wasn't my cup of tea but was one of the most charismatic politicians of our lifetime...

It will take more than the far left part of the Dem. Party to win an election. And those are the only votes that Dean appeals to.

I see. And you base this on what? Your vast experience at the meetups perhaps? As membership chair to my local Dem party the only time I ever signed up more new members than at meetups was membership drives. I had liberals, moderate Dems, apolitical and Rethugs signing up.

Do tell us more about Dean and the demographics of those who support him. You are highly entertaining.

Oh but wait! What's this???

I supported Clark and thought he'd make a great President.

and this??

Clark appeals to a broad base, I think. It's over for them, as far as the Presidency.

I see. Well the only people here that supported Clark were a couple of Rethugs. But I see since your candidate is finished with politics Dean must be too. Few were as hateful toward Dean as a few select Clark supporters (though I could name a Kerry supporter or two in the running) and I see you carry on that proud tradition.

Sad.

Julie

with Clark. He is just to odd to ever make it.

Dean did not get votes from the moderates of the Dem. Party, for the most part. Dean did not win even one state, when running for the nomination. And Clark got votes from a variety of people in the Party, incl. southern votes, but not enough to win more than one state.

I'd say vote counts are a good indication of support within one's party, wouldn't you?

It was a grassroots effort that bought ads reminding Vermonters that they could still vote for Howard in their primary.

And Dean is working on reforming the Dem Party from the grassroots up. We have a lot of meadheads in the Establishment ranks, so it won't be easy reforming the Party, but it will get done.

:cry:

So exactly was it that you supported in the primaries? Does anyone give a damn about what that person says or does now? Is that the problem we are having with too much attention on Dean? Are we jealous?

Have you learned anything from the massive loss we just suffered yet?

Do you know that tens of thousands of Dean supporters got behind Kerry simply because Dean convinced us to? Do you know how many of us did a hell of a lot more than post on DU for the last month before the election? And for what..another asshole post like this one you have just posted.

You don't like Dean why?

If you don't like the subject stay off the thread. Several "prominent" DUes pulled this same nonsense in every Gore or Dean thread that was posted since 2002 and won permanent shit list status for it. One of them lost at least 2/3rds of his sycophant followers over his nasty bully behavior. The other one died and almost no one gave a damn.
You might want to stop now.

You carp on Clark all the time, and you whine and claim victim when people carp on Dean?

I love Dean now, but your words here are a joke until you start practicing what you preach.

DTH

I don't make up crap about him because I don't think he's "electible".
Do you think democratic nominees should transition right to war profiteer? I don't. I have a big problem with what he has chosen to do for a living.
To compare the two is comical. Dean spent the last months trying to elect Kerry and make the democratic party more viable. 50 percent of his supporters aren't even democrats. They are people who left the party years ago over it's willingness to become the other corporate party. He held onto those supporters and got them to not just vote for, but to work for Kerry.
What did Clark do? He showed up at some events and joined a firm that specializes on capitalizing on the war on terror.
Look in the mirror. It isn't okay just because it is Clark doing it. As democrats we know that this "War on terror" crap is phony bullshit used to keep the american people affraid and complacent... and Clark is just cashing in.

The best thing about Wesley Clark is his grassroots supporters. Too bad you have been used.

As the other thread amply establishes.

The fact remains that you -- of all people -- trying to preach unity and respect for Dean is a complete joke when you sow dissension and disrespect Clark, who was a loyal Democrat and supporter of Kerry just like Dean was.

As democrats we know that this "War on terror" crap is phony bullshit used to keep the american people affraid and complacent... and Clark is just cashing in.

Speak for yourself. Most Americans understand that al-Qaida and terrorism are still real threats, all the more so because Bush has been so incompetent at fighting the real threats.

Until you and others like you lose that completely tin ear with respect to what "Democrats" (much less the rest of America) know and feel, you're going to continue to sound shrill and way outside of even the liberal mainstream.

DTH

Your post is meaningless and counter-productive. If Dean wants to run again in 2008, that's up to him, and Dem voters will make a new decision at that time.

DTH

you must be psychic since you already know what is going to happen in '08. Who will be the nominee? Who will win the election? Are you one of the folks who predicted that Kerry was "electable"?? Ronald Reagan tried three times to become the nominee of his party, so never say never.

Now that would be a fun race.

No way Dean ever becomes the nominee.

Frist would be a pathetic choice for the GOP.

Go ahead.

Pick him...

Pugs...


If I was a Pug I would think George Allen would be my best bet ...


Goober enough win the heartland and not goober enough to lose in the other places that count....

can i be in charge of push-polling please?!


pleeeeaaaaaaseeee?