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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:17 PM
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Ohio voter testimony: Her husband died while she spent 4 hrs voting.
If she hadn't had to take so long, she may have saved his life.

There's a human story to make the point that
VOTING FRAUD KILLS.

(I'm listening to Pacifica Radio KPFA Berkeley live coverage of testimony in Ohio.)
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:26 PM
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1. please post details
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:32 PM
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4. The widow's friend delivered the story for her. 11/17/04 10:30am PST
Testimony at a Baptist Church in Columbus Ohio.

All in the room gasped and their was a horrified silence.

Listen if you can:
http://www.kpfa.org/cgi-bin/gen-mpegurl.m3u/?server=aud-

Someone from Kucinich's office speaking now
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Surikat Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:28 PM
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2. I used to do event planning.
A rule of thumb for an afternoon-long event with an attendance of about 500 was that you had to have an ambulance on hand because the chances that somebody at the event would have a heart attack was as near to 100% as made no difference.

That somebody's husband died while they were off at the precinct voting in a state as big as Ohio shouldn't surprise anybody. I suspect that were a good survey done you'd find that maybe a dozen people either died voting or had somebody at home who died while they were out of the house.

That's just how things are with the dynamics of large groups of people.
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:31 PM
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3. that might be true, but why is it OK for some areas to have long waits
and others to have none?
Why should someone have to wait a long time to vote?
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Surikat Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:40 PM
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6. Election officials are local people who make local decisions...
... as best as I've ever heard. In my small town, for example, the voting station I have to go to is all the way across town from me while a voting station lies within about 300 yards of my house for another precinct. I don't know who set up the precinct map for my town but it looks as cockeyed and gerrymandered as DeLay's Texas Congressional districts map. Can't see what the point is, though, because there is no reason why local voting precincts should be set up the way they are.

OTOH, on 2 November the precinct officials, who shifted from punch cards to optical scans this election, reduced our voting lines to effectively zero by the simple expedient of putting about 5 times as many little cubicles where people could scribble on their ballots as they had last election when we were using punch cards. They moved a huge number of voters through that little hall as a result of doing that. No waiting beyond about 30-45 seconds to get your ballot and take as long as you liked filling it out because there were plenty of places TO fill it out.

Neat! :-)
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:45 AM
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8. You hit the nail on the head
Optical scan has a great front end, as the booths are much smaller. Not only that, here in South King County (WA state), several precincts shared a library. People didn't even wait for the booths to come free when it was crowded--they just found a private corner somewhere else in the library.

The only thing I'd change is to make the counting software available to the public.
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:40 PM
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5. I really feel sorry for the people who stood in line for up to and over 8
hours. The night after the election I had a dream or actually a nightmare that I was standing in line for 8-10 hours. I woke up the next morning and it felt like I shoveled snow for 8 hours or worked hard all day.

How low can you get doing this to people who just want to have their vote be heard. I know myself after so many hours I would have walked off.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 01:49 PM
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7. One year when I was in college, my school decided to try a new
registration system. I don't know what they did wrong, but a process that had previously taken an hour at most suddenly took six. It was thirty years ago, and I can't recall exactly where the bottleneck was, but afterwards, we joked that we should have each gotten a course credit just for surviving the day.

Fortunately, the school reverted to the old system the following year.
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 04:21 PM
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9. kick
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