Resolved... (I am begging you to read this)

I believe that John Kerry won the 2004 Presidential Election.
I believe that many people committed acts of voter intimidation and suppression to limit the number of Kerry votes.
I believe that somebody (or some group) committed gross election fraud in the electronic manipulation of the results.
I believe that the mainstream media are gutless cowards who refuse to cover this story.

If you are with me, please keep this topic kicked and make a commitment to send all of the information you can find to every single person on your e-mail list and to speak with every person that you know, to use any means at your disposal to inform the citizenry that the nails are being pounded into the coffin of American democracy and they must insist that public officials and media do their job to institute the investigations necessary to support the efforts of those who are doing all they can to save our beloved system of government.

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And I'm kicking too!

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Keep up with the news and developments here:

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x3223

ALSO SEE: VOTE FRAUD? What can we do? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2701028#
INCLUDING DONATE to our own DUer hedda_foil's 27, Help America Recount: www.helpamericarecount.org

********SEND THESE TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND MEDIA TOO *********
Best Fraud Summary I've seen!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x57214
Link: http://www.bopnews.com
Updated Version: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=61029

NEW Berkeley Study: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu (scroll down)
and: http://ucdata.berkeley.edu/new_web/VOTE2004/index.html

I think that they are intentionally involved in the whole scam.

CNN Saudi owned
NBC owned by GE who also are making billions off of weapons
FOX own and operated by the man that controls 1/3 of the world's media.

CBS and ABC intentionally clueless.

CBS got nailed in the memo scandal.

No wonder they're scared. Things will have to get so bad they don't care any more. They're not there yet.

my suggestion is to do anything AND everything you can to stop this coup. Just because the media (msm) don't say it (FraWd) doesn't mean we can't. Say it at work, say it at school, say it at church, say it at the store, say it at the soccer field. get a t-shirt that say's loud and clear-FRAWD!!
Then follow all the other options available, boycott Xmas, boycott repug business, write ltte, get involved with local progressive's and fight for your country for what it should be.

Now the Daily Show is the only news for me and I also tell everyone I know the same.

You know, the big military contractor? They have a huge stake in keeping Bush in power and the Iraq invasion going forward. The longer our troops stay in Iraq, the more money General Electric makes.

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Been sending out news daily and telling everyone I know.

Be nice to get some signs made--like through the Dem Store--a custom order that could be offered on Bev's sight or Verified Voting--big "F" for fraud in a circle with a slash and a black box behind it might work. We could put them in our yards and in our windows. I would like a bumper sticker too.

Encouraging anyone who speaks out, condemning the cowards.

In fact, this election has FINALLY made my luddite sister eager for a pc of her own, so SHE can write vicious and biting emails to her legislators.

I have a little list. Oh, and I just got banned from another little list for mentioning the blood on Republican hands to a bunch of soap fans.

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The MSM Propaganda Machine is spinning it's best attempt to move on and ignore the false fact that Bush cheated.

I can't believe the beacon of democracy is a complete sham, rights are being stolen, lies are mainstream, easily passed around as fact important news is considered off limits to the population, Religious groups are expanding their mind control. Pre-emptive war, for no reason other than greed is acceptable. Faith in democracy has been sold to corrupt corporate interests, traceless faceless machines are in control of the votes, constitution is worthless, and america has the gaul to tell other countries how to be a democracy.

I hate America, and it needs to be righted, I feel mutany is the only solution I see to retake our voice. Propaganda institutions have to be removed, and alternatives have to be presented and promoted.

FUCK THE BOZOS!

what can we do?

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but hate Murica - what the reich wing is making it right now. This is not my beloved country, it was stolen and we haven't figured out how to get it back. I really think it's going to take something really heinous and drastic to wake folks up. Sometimes I think there is no relief, but I can't just sit around and do nothing. So, I write, I email, I talk, but inside I feel so sad and hopeless.

lark

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This is in another DU thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1371851

It shows that undecided voters broke for Kerry, not Bush in some areas thought to have gone the other way.

I'm with you.

I think we have been duped by "religious magicians", who have been masters at misdirection with the public. I believe they targeted the "religious" citizens with the thought process being, if they believe in something that can't be proved so whole heartedly, they would never question someone that said they were doing what they are doing because their "faith" tells them to do it. Blind faith is the term that comes to mind. They would never question their pastors and they will never question a leader that holds the bible in their hand. Unfortunately, they are ONLY looking at the hand with the bible and not the other hand controlling of the PEN.

I talk to everybody who will listen and sometimes even those that won't. I have freeway blogged about Bev's work and printed info and articles to share anyone I can. I talk about it in the grocery store, the gas station, at work and anywhere there are people "waiting in line" for anything.

Interesting story at the gas station the other night. They young guy that pumps the gas there had read my bumper stickers while pumping my gas. When I went to pay him, he told me how disenfranchised he feels in his own country. He told me about the customers that he sees everyday that have "W" stickers on their cars and how "demanding and entitled" (translate - arrogant) they were even before the election and how much worse it has gotten since the election. This is a young guy, probably 19 or 20 at most, and he sees it everyday. He is one small voice but if we band together, imagine what we can do!

and start talking about what they do.

nt

And I will keep fighting for what I believe - I will not give up -

"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
- Thomas Paine

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Kicking because I'd like for ** to GET OUT OF KERRY'S HOUSE!!

I'm going to print business cards with Bev's site on it, as well as the web site which is keeping track of voter "irregularities."

http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=state&selectstate=NV&selectproblemtype=ALL

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I still wear my Kerry/Edwards pin. I met another woman in Border's wearing her pin, also. We started talking, now we exchange information and forward it on to others.

But, the business card idea with Bev's website and VotersUnite is the 'peice de resistance.' Just think what you can do with them!

Stick them in the best seller books at the book store and library. Doesn't have to be poltical books - any and all books.

Post them on bulletin boards, send them with your Christmas cards to friends and foe alike.

Send with your bill payments!! Hey, someone is opening that envelope.

Add your ideas! :bounce:

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is un-American, immoral, wrong, and I think we should fight this election with our very last breaths.

I'm willing to march if someone tells me when and where. I'm mad and disappointed in our 'leaders' in the Democratic party for not doing more to help.

Busting my butt. Time is of the essence.

I (and others) try to keep the Tampa / St. Pete area informed on the Tampa Bay / St. Pete forum.

I've posted some recent articles here...

http://forums.sptimes.com/Forums/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=012295

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They're looking at it now and I already have one opinion back: it looks suspicious but still not enough info. I agree with you that the election was likely stolen, but, the prof informed me that the paper is obviously being published in a peer reviewed journal and he said that if the election really was stolen, the studies will begin to converge and ultimately there will be nothing that can be done to hide it.

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and it FEELS SO GOOD! A place to put our MONEY where our MOUTH is!

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Kicking!!:kick:

I've been emaiing every article on voter fraud to everyone in my address book since Nov. 2.

I'd like to add, I believe that the single MOST important issue before us is to change the system by which we vote and votes are counted. We must commit ourselves and our elected officials to that end. Without it - nothing else matters because our choices and our votes don't count.

"I believe that John Kerry won the 2004 Presidential Election.
I believe that many people committed acts of voter intimidation and suppression to limit the number of Kerry votes.
I believe that somebody (or some group) committed gross election fraud in the electronic manipulation of the results.
I believe that the mainstream media are gutless cowards who refuse to cover this story."

I'm with you all the way, Jane!

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for internet samizdat!

AND I nominated it for the front page!!

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I just wanted to say. The fraud of this election is being proved, by a wonderful thoughtful woman (Bev Harris) ‘Blackboxvoting.org”. We all need to thank this woman, for she is protecting our rights for a truthful election. I ask everyone to send her a thank you at her web site.

We need to keep up the fight to have our voices heard, send these media outlets an email demanding they report the news accurately. If we don’t keep up the fight they will have won.

We now see that the republicans in our government are immoral. By allowing an indicted person to keep their job in our government is beyond reasoning.

These people have stolen our election, and they need to be held accountable for the theft.
Send John Kerry a message let him know we have not given up the fight for our right to elect who we want for our president, so don’t give up on us. Send all democrats a message that we expect them to join John Kerry in the fight for our presidency, and we will be there to back them up. Let them know we have their backs, now help protect our backs. This needs to be done now.

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have yr BBV cards with you at all times

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I believe the media is all but useless to us anymore. I wish our leaders would do something!

this is my quote for the day:

The great American dream that reached out to the stars has been lost to the stripes. We have forgotten where we came from, we don't know where we are, and we fear where we may be going. Afraid, we turn from the glorious adventure of the pursuit of happiness to a pursuit of an illusionary security in an ordered, stratified, striped society. Our way of life is symbolized to the world by the stripes of military force. At home we have made a mockery of being our brother's keeper by being his jail keeper. When Americans can no longer see the stars, the times are tragic. We must believe that it is the darkness before the dawn of a beautiful new world; we will see it when we believe it.

-- Saul Alinsky, 1971 -- Rules for Radicals

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Sure, it takes guts to speak truth to power. But I doubt many of the talking heads are failing to report on this due to that fear. I think it's more a desire to keep their jobs, position of influence, fat paycheck, and comfortable life.

I think it does take a good bit of courage to be willing to sacrifice your honor, integrity, and respect of your children in order to be a part of the "media elite."

After I thought about it, I think I should have said that the media was too afraid to report it, which does make them gutless cowards, by the way, since they chose a profession which makes it their responsibility to get the truth out to as many people as possible.

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on. They think this will all blow over and then the few can continue to control the many. Keep up the onslaught to the media!!

:kick: :hi: Jane Eyrez

Pet Rock :hi:

Bush* just became Bush** as far as I'm concerned.

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for starting this thread and believing so much in this from down there in the belly of the Beast..Florida.

I have been telling everyone I know that I think this election went to Kerry and something happened along the way.

It will be Great to have some solid info to give to them.

Here's to saving our Beloved Democracy~ :toast:

Sometimes I want to quit because it just seems TOO HARD to keep on believing and posting and writing e-mails and reading and praying and hoping... but what is the alternative? Our troops and those poor people in Iraq are getting chewed up and spat out by BU$H's war machine just for his own egomaniacal pursuits.

I guess y'all know that he told his biographer way before 9/11 happened that the best way to succeed as a president is to start a war so that everybody would meekly give in to your agenda. Can you imagine ANYTHING more cynical or more indicative of the fact that he has no idea of the costs of war in terms of human suffering? I love ago decided that the best definition of evil is LACK OF EMPATHY, and this is a President that shows no empathy for anybody who isn't a friend of contributor. The rest of us (including the whole freakin' world) just don't exist for him except as cannon fodder and sources of tax revenue. I nominate him for the worst President, ever!

the little dictator told his biographer..but it doesn't surprise me..it also indicates how totally arrogant and sociopathic he is.

his punishment should be having to answer individually to everyone whose life he has screwed with!

John Kerry
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I've got yer back

and God Bless us all! :kick:

Party from the ground up. There is a battle on for the soul of the Dem Party, and we should fight that war with both hands, while keeping only a wary eye on the 2004 voting irregularities, IMO.

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Do you believe in Santa Claus, I do and President Kerry too.
I think we are going to have a happy holiday season, I do, I do.

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and if I didn't believe that, I would have to believe that * was a winner, had a popular mandate, was justified in his actions, represented the will of the country...

in short, if I didn't believe, I would be a silent (bitter, disillusioned, misanthropic) expatriate, rather than another voice here.

the media are owned by big corporations that profit from not covering this story - and many other stories, for that matter.

that if thousands of us marched naked waving signs that the election was rigged, the media still wouldn't cover it... or they would dismiss it as an outbreak of the crazies from the internet. I'm getting tired of being dismissed. From the reading I've done on DU I would say that the caliber of people here are much higher than the population at large in terms of education and understanding. I haven't seen much in the way of mental instability (and, believe me, with my family I would recognize it).

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and while you're at it, tell them to

Google: Operation Vigilant Warrior

and have their minds blown open to new ways of thinking.

or whatever it was that Sharpton used to say in the debates!:kick: :silly:

are probably getting sick of my everyday volume of e-mail, but it makes me feel better that other people know what I am reading here and elsewhere on the internet.

This is my way of keeping the faith!

realized how utterly stupid that remark was.

As Emily Latella would have said "never mind".

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1692/

Let’s Get Real
By Mark Crispin Miller

How better to commit the perfect crime than to insist it never happened?

Bush & company’s theft of the election was a crime so obvious that it requires more effort to deny than to affirm. This rip-off was as flagrant as the L.A. cops’ assault on Rodney King, Kerry’s stellar soldiering in Vietnam, or Bush’s lousy record in the Texas Air National Guard, and yet this national calamity is being dismissed as a delusion.

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keep on!


peace!

Good article. I'm keeping a bunch of these editorials for future salivation! :yourock:

just please keep on.

everyone.



peace!

KICK!

Thanks for kicking! :kick:

oh and have I mentioned.....?

KICK!!!!!!

You go, girl.

With you all the way.

For more kindred minds, check out http://www.politicalstrategy.org
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Spread the word!

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All the Way! I've been working VERY HARD to get the message out ever since the election. My daughter and I are going to get arrested yet!! Hijinks going on here in Florida!!

We NEED TO MARCH. Said It Again, for the Umteenth Time!

face. Another good costume for pickets is Paul Revere, you can shout, "The Diebolds are coming, The Diebolds are coming."
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A BIG KICK! :kick:

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DemEx

Keep the fire burning.

that American citizens need to stop expecting the media to do anything about this - the 2000 election was most definetly and undeniably stolen - the proof is all there for anyone to see and has been for a few years now - where are the massive general strikes? where are the street protests? where are the shutdowns?

Why is it that when an election is stolen in Ukraine people flood the streets? when it happens in one of the world's largest democracies everyone just lets it happen.

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First is this country is too spread out. Even though a lot of us believe the election was stolen, we're too far distant from one another to band together and storm something. Besides, for it to be more effective, the something we storm would have to have some symbolic value, like Washington, D.C.

Secondly, people in Europe have had more reason to know and believe that their governments are corrupt. They are looking for it in a way that we are not... or at least were not until the last election. It takes a while for this kind of belief to sink in. Did you want to believe it? I didn't.

They are just doing their job- to report good shit about Repubs & bad shit about DEMS. Cant call em cowards just for doing their jobs!!! Their job is to sell TV ads and to protect Bush throughhis various scandals and lies.

Democrats who time & time again REFUSE to just speak a few words of PLAIN TRUTH about the dishonesty & criminal activities of Bush are the cowards. Because they are NOT doing their jobs.

I'm not a politician, so obviously I don't think like one. I don't always understand why they're so cautious about what they say. I want them to speak the truth, but I know that they're probably considering ramifications that I'm unaware of.

If they think Clinton is a "lying, phony, communist draft dodger" they SAY IT-Loud & matter of factly.

If they think Kerry is "flip flopper" and a "traitor" they say so.

Seems to work well for them.

Why are DEMS too afraid to do this?

(making up for all those he lost over these 4 years)

hell, me, too! It's hard to hold on, especially since we're probably not going to be able to do anything about it. But the truth is important... at least that's what they taught us when we were little.

but I WON'T get over fraud!

KICK!

And all he did was prove he is an ignorant, redneck ass, who cares about nothing but himself. The rest of the family already knew that and let him get away w/ it anyway. I'm not sure I want to face him at Christmas. I may go the route my younger uncle goes, eat, open, presents, spurn him, and leave! I am tired of my lefty family letting him think he won, because he has nothing intelligent to add to the conversation!

Kick King George in the balls before he puts YOU in a Xtian re-education camp!