Barbara Boxer for President?

Senator Boxer just crushed her Ahnuld endorsed, former Sec. of State, opponent by 20 points.

She's smart, she's tough, she's a fighter, and she is proudly and unabashedly liberal.

If we're wanting to take a different tack in 2008, how 'bout the golden girl of the golden state?

she would have to move to the right too much

We need her there. So many goofy things being submitted in the Senate these days.

and hell

How about her taking out Ahrnuld in 2006 - then she is the top of my list.

But don't put hopes on her nationally. The nation just won't follow her.

She's far too controversial to make a legitimate bid for the presidency in the final stages of a campaign.

And in fact, I wouldn't doubt that she would have a tougher time than Hillary with swaying voters.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

I like her policies, but she would be a very polarizing figure and would lose by 55-45%.

or Hillary.

I like Boxer and think she would make a good president.

But let's get real. It's not going to happen. This country isn't progressive enough to vote for a liberal woman from CA. It's just not going to happen.

no one from inside washington culture can win. Veep, fine.

only governors or generals can run against washington.

will we have the foresight to pick wes clark in 08? because he would have won in 04.

Yes, that's a sad outlook on our current society, but it's the truth.

If we really want to address terrorism, we must begin by changing our Middle East foreign policy, and that means to stop enabling Israel's post June-1967 cruel occupation of Arab lands and its people.

Bush gained 5 points among Jews almost entirely for his strong support of our closest friend, Israel. With so many Jews in Florida and a good amount in Ohio suburbs, that may have swung the election to Bush. In New York, I know many people who voted for Gore, Clinton (2x), and even Dukakis and Mondale, who voted for Bush becasue of his support for Israel. One of our biggest constituencies is the Jewish people.
I laugh as you say there is a cruel occupation of Arab lands. Do you know that Arafat and other leaders convince family that if you die while killing other Israelis, you will go to heavan. Arabs are willing to die so that they can terrorize Israelis. I think one reason as to why Dean lost was his anti-Israel stance. Many of the biggest donors are Jewish and they did not want to give to someone with a flawed view of the conflict.
The United States has no better friend than Israel. If our candidate was anti-Israeli, I would seriously consider abstaining from the presidential race.

We will never regain the moral high ground, or reduce terrorism, if we persist in denying the Arabs their inalienable right to get back all of the land Israel took from them in the June 1967 war.

How can we protest our occupation of Iraq while we look the other way at Israel's occupation of Gaza, the West Bank, the Golan, and East Jerusalem?

Israel is no friend of ours, and neither are the other despots that we keep in power in the region, including Mubarak of Egypt.

The Palestinians/Arabs are the aggresors. They do not recognize the sovereign state of Israel, set up by the UN. Us Dems love the UN, so why do you not respect their decision to set up a state for the suffering Jews.
Iraq never attacked us.

It's like comparing apples and oranges.

And the Palestinians were not responsible for the Holocaust, the Germans were.

Are rape victims to blame? How about those who are robbed at gunpoint?

And, more to the point, they HAVE recognized Israel. Happened years ago. Google is your friend, if you're actually here because you're interested in the truth (jury's still out on that, IMHO).

It's called "intellectual dishonesty" and hypocrisy.

If she wants it, let her make the case. I'd like to hear from Pelosi, too

She's my Senator and I love her, but this is ridiculous.

She's female. Although a woman may well be elected in the next few decades, the cavemen are so ugly in their lock on power that the only one who could be elected is a reactionary.

She's shrill, liberal and short. Yes, fuck all of the mindsets that have any problems with any of those issues, but it's reality.

I loathe the concept of sucking the dick of the Nazis by moving to the "respectable" middle--and yes, that includes Clinton for his shattering of the soul of the Democratic Party through foolish appeasement--but we can't put our hopes behind a galvanizing figure like this.

May she be a Senator forever, but I hope that's enough for her. She's a tireless fighter, and she deserves a feeling of success; hopefully that's enough for her.

Somehow a middle ground must be found, because we can't surrender everything to find someone "acceptable", and we can't dismiss the points of contention that demand someone who's electable.

She's grown on me over the years, and I think she would make a respectable president (although given most recent ones, standards are pretty low). However, a liberal, Jewish woman from California is probably not going to play well in the Bible Belt.

Diane Feinstein, on the other hand, is more centrist, almost to the point of Republicanism. She's also a deft politician. She's also a Jewish woman from California, or, as it's known in large parts of the red states, the land of fruits, flakes and nuts.

It's interesting that the Dems are the only major party to have put a woman and a non-Christian on a national ticket so far.

linda

BTW: Boxer is not short - she's taller than me :)

She's OK with environmental stuff but very wimpy.

Hillary is a DLC repub-lite Democrat who will be branded a far far left wing liberal and lose royally, while still appeasing to the right.
Boxer would be branded a frisco liberal and would lose royally. However, she IS an unabashed liberal and wouldn't be afraid to speak her mind on the campaign trail and give the issues a good airing. I'd pick her in a heartbeat.
But, I'd still like to go with someone I think could win and I have some confidence in.

We're getting plenty of practice at it.

No way she could win.

She voted to confirm John "Death Squad Fan #1!" Negroponte to be ambassador to Iraq. Considering his past in Honduras, I can't understand her vote on that issue.

Go right ahead.

I like Boxer as senator and voted for her when I lived in California, but she is not exactly presidential.

She does a great job as senator in California...let her keep her job.