In some ways I feel relieved we lost.

I was upset at first that Bush won but almost immediately I kind of felt a sense of relief that Kerry would not be the one to have to fix all the problems Bush started. I have a feeling the economy is about to go south as we heard from Greenspan today, Iraq is getting worse, the federal defecate is getting bigger, their is a threat of inflation from the debt, we are bound to get nailed by a terrorist attack and Kerry would have been blamed for that. I think a Kerry win would have put Democrats in a tough position and it might have cost us the election in 08. Now we have a Republican President, congress and senate and they are screwing everything up big time. Their will only be one party to blame for the oncoming disaster. In the end loosing this election may have worked out for us even though it will cost the country so much. Relieved but very sad watching our country go to hell in a hand basket.

you'd have thunk there would be only one party to blame for the existing disaster, seeing as how they've had a repub. president, congress and Senate all along. I have no desire to watch our Supreme Court and environment pay an enduring price for yet another four years!

we have four years to pull our heads out and get together. john kerry was part of the same political machine as dubya, business as usual, bought and paid for.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

why would they wake up after 8 years?

Vietnam.

took 6 years to get Nixon too

the Repubs are going to implode and we will win 2008--provided we stay united and have a clear message. I feel that one of Kerry's faults (and not his alone but all politicians) is that they do not deliver their message in a clear logical position.
For as whacky as Ross Perot was, I always loved his charts and props. I often wished JK would whip one out when he was being attacked by the right for "not having a plan".
Why are politicians so loathe to providing specifics when they are campaigning. Even handouts or a brochure...something that the common guy can relate to.

Well the bad news is that the ship is sinking but the good news is that noone is blaming me.......news flash: you get just as wet.

The real tragedy is that the pitiful democrats couldnt defeat someone who has led us to this brink of disaster, and couldnt fix the problems anyway.

I wouldn't wish this mess on anyone.

And I am still upset that we have to live under a radical government. I fought hard knowing that Kerry would have to fight even harder against these radicals. It is likely true that because of Bush and his decisions that our government and our economy will tank. It is better that the bottom falls out under the Repubs. After that we have a better chance of beginning anew. It is the old myth about the Phoenix. The Phoenix had to burn in order to be reborn. I very much doubt that anything will be accomplished in this term that is faced with severe economic disaster. There is a good chance that there will be no radical judges appointed.

When the bottom really starts falling out, all the "undecideds" will scream it's the Dems fault for not running a "good" candidate against Bush*. Just wait.

And in 2008, if the Repugs play the fear card again, the sheeple will vote Repug again. "Thank you sir, can I have another?!".

fuck themselves..We ran a Great candidate and we won..

bush/rove screwed with voting tabulators and there were no paper trails for the voting machines.

I think the sheeple love pain. American Masochism.

office, you couldn't find not one person in the entire country who would say they voted for him. Amazing.

tell the repukes they're doomed to perdition if they vote for the Democrats.
When their choice is between a damned nation and damnation, a fundie will vote against their country every time.
Problem is, there seems to be a critical mass of those nuts now.

Is that a Freudian slip?:)

IMO :)

Did you go to Freeman's restaurant?

Was the story true?:D

But I don't think they are lacking in business. If that item goes around they will be booked solid for the next four years for real.

Urban legend or not! :toast:

I have a friend who silk screens. Maybe I'll get some ideas to pass on for making.

Don't get me wrong. I do not want five minutes more of the chimp, let alone four more years. People are literally paying with their lives for his reign, and he's getting away with it.

Molly Ivins takes the attitude that America is like a chicken-killing dog who is now being trained not to kill chickens anymore by having a dead chicken attached to its neck until the chicken rots and stinks and eventually falls to pieces. Our personal chicken is George W. Bush.

I hope Ivins is right.

...it assumes the existance of a fair and honest electoral system in 2008 to remedy the problem, and the long term memory of the collective American people to prevent it from occurring again in the future.

Unless we eliminate the electro fraud machines, the former is impossible.

And unless we eliminate the corporate media, the latter is unlikely. The 8 years between 1992 and 2000 were long enough to allow half the country to forget how disasterous the Republicans (under management of the BCE) were in their previous occupancy of the White House.

rather than watch the chimp and his crew put us through another 4 years. This is murder.

crash and burn, in the mean time i will wear my helmet sit in the fox hole and keep my head down, let em duke it out. create be and live in mess. not me

and all the while saying i told you so

You said:

"Now we have a Republican President, congress and senate and they are screwing everything up big time"

I have a hard time taking comfort in that belief. The last term, it was republicans in charge, and radical fundamentalists still managed to blame the democrats for the misery that the republican admin, congress, and court were doling out.

About 6 months ago, I went to a town hall meeting hosted by "my" repubican congressman, and on at least two topics, morons stood up and said "It's the democrats fault." When I later pointed out to one moron that the democrats are not in charge of anything, the moron looked at me blankly and breathed through his mouth. (Yes, they are morons. They think Iraq was involved in 9.11, and they think WMDs were found in Iraq. So I won't feel guilty about calling the ignorant by their proper name)

Whenever I explain to some of my republican co-workers that Bush was responsible for the massive failure on Sept. 11, I get called a nut, a nutty conspiracy theorist, and I'm told to watch out for the black helicopters. These same people who tell me I cam crazy for blaming Bush, will loudly proclaim that 9.11.01 was Bill Clinton's fault.

I am not allowed to pin the blame on the Bush Admin (who was in power when the murders went down) but they gleefully blame Clinton.

The double standard is breathtaking.

Also, I disagree with the conclusion that the Democrats lost the last few elections. The elections were rigged by the republicans to favor Republicans. FRAUD.

Best. Misspelling. Ever.

:hi:

but your point is well taken, Bush will have to blamed for the consequences of his reckless incompetence BUT can we take another four years of this fiscal irresponsibility, his SCOTUS appointments, the crazy theocrat judges, more stupid wars?