Who cares what Britain thinks? More voted for Bush than LIVE in Britain!

That's a direct quote from someone I know who's a Republican. He somehow discovered recently that the British people don't like Bush (big surprise for him, he thought it was only France that hates him) - he dismissed Britain, France and any other country that complains about Bush by this "reasoning".

1/ 59 million people voted FOR Bush here in the states
2/ Population of France is less than that, so they can't complain.
3/ Population of Britain is less than that, so they can't complain.

etc.

(I know the population of Britian is more than that, but he doesn't)

His point is that more people voted FOR Bush in this last election than there ARE in many entire countries, so he doesn't care what they think and, in fact, they are WRONG.

Now, if this was a dumb idiot standing at a bus stop waiting for a train, it wouldn't be anything to report, but this guy is a very accomplished doctor, has his own multi-million dollar practice and is very well educated, he's a history buff, can tell you all the history of the British royal family, and the entire history of the US.

Yet he can't see the parallels with Bush and Hitler.

So it's not just the dumb fucks in the single-wides with drug-addled brains and inbreeding, and the fundie Dominionists, it's people like this very talented, well educated doctor that we're up against.

What is it that gets him to be so FUCKING blind? Wilfully blind. Deliberately blind.

I quizzed him about that and he pointed out that the interpretation anyone has is just and interpretation and you can change your interpretation any time you want. So he has his interpretation of things and I have mine and in his mind, although I'm wrong, he sees little difference in quality between the two points of view - they're both made up interpretations and he prefers his own to mine.

I call it faith-based politics and it's destroying the world.

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We've been programmed on a steady diet of "We're #1" for so many years that most people have bought the bullshit entirely. We have consumed so much TV programming and movies that tell us how good we are, many can't seperate fantasy from reality.

Interesting, people who live in the heartland and who have no contact with other cultures or who haven't traveled outside their country are probably far more likely to believe the meme.

He also told me that he likes CNN now, which is a sure sign they're pandering to the beast.

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we have a hell of a lot more idiots in this country than there are people in England !

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that many stupid people in our Country. But that's what happens when they use machines that don't leave paper trails..Major Doubt.

We have to count on the people here to get out of this mess!

but as the years passed and I saw through the fog of television sitcoms, "reality" tv, and 40 years' worth of gimmicky commercials ("As SEEN on TV!") which later morphed into full-length infomercials, it finally began to dawn on me that many people really ARE that stupid.

I know... it's a shock at first. You'll get over it eventually, just as I did. What else explains the continued existence of tabloids like The National Enquirer, Globe, Mirror, Sun, and National Star? And then there's the whole KKK mentality (anti-semites, anti-anybodywhoisn'twhite, hate spewers, blahblahblah)... the homophobes who somehow think that giving gay and lesbians civil rights is somehow an attack on hetero marriage... the pro-life AND pro-death penalty crew who don't see the inherent contradiction there... need I go on?

many willfully ignorant people in the US but not in the voting majority..they played the numbers in this election.

Kerry won and bush is trying to steal it..again.

but we've understood that reality for ages.

Confronted with a populace we see as so easy to manipulate, we continually fail to manipulate them in another direction. All Democrats seem to be able to do is curse the darkness...

Absolutely right. What if 90% of the people voted for Kerry? How would we really know? All Bush needs is his corrupt party and the MSM co-conspirators to all sing off the same sheet of music. It's like the MSM controls the reality today. It is what they say it is. I watched CNN and MSNBC very closely after the election...it seemed that they were working off a tightly choreograhed script. Seemed like they were in quite a hurry to end the election coverage and start the "the Democrats lost because they don't have values" bullshit. The fact that they have avoided discussing the growing case of systematic voting fraud seals the deal for me.

is a loser argument. It may be just and fair, but it's a sure loser.

If I thought Bush's policies were good for America, I wouldn't care what Britain thought either. But Bush's policies are destructive to America, and that needs to be the focus of the argument.

when Medicaid/Medicare and health insurance for all but the rich is history. If he replies he will care for the rich, ask him what he thinks he will be able to charge when he is competing with the rest of the underemployed medical care industry.