The party's only hope is to Cryogenically Freeze Barack Obama

"Cryogenically Freeze Barack Obama: He's pretty much all we've got, and right now, everyone loves him. Let's not risk it. Freeze him now, before he makes any Senate votes that could later be misconstrued. We'll thaw him the night before the Iowa caucus. If he's polling well. "

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=express&s=hely111704

before he casts it by a visionary, experienced political operative, ala Carville.

politically expedient?

Hmmm.

and a general election.

Isn't that exactly what some folks attacked Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt for doing re: the Iraq resoluation?

That is my point. Obama can learn from Kerry's experience, and understand the future ramifications of every vote. Most of all, he should be consistent.

Obama hasn't proven anything to me yet about how he'll peform in the big leagues. I want to see him make lots of Senate votes that demonstrate his convictions under fire -- and while I'm sure he did well in the Illinois legislature, Congress is something else altogether. Obama hasn't earned a national reputation yet based on his national record, but on his potential. I am hoping like hell he proves to be the real deal.... but he has to prove it.

so much time and energy is used on his nomination which I do hope will surely one day come to pass.

Soon enough, the republicans will ban cryogenics along with all other science

It would work for me. :) :) :)

Of course the clones can't have the same names. Picky little technicality. ;)

Peter Fitzgerald talking about Obama. He said that Obama would surprise some people and that Obama is more moderate than people think. So we shall see.

I got a good look at Obama's mettle recently. I saw a picture by The Black Commentator of Obama on the Internet accusing him of being an uncle tom and lap dog for the DLC. Really nasty. And then I found a letter posted on TBC' website from Obama saying it wasn't true, that he had his name removed from the DLC list when he was appraised of them laying claim to his bright future. It was pretty impressive.

I don't think we should be looking to one of ours to by cryogenically frozen to prevent him from voting in the Senate. The whiny little bitches that eviscerated Kerry this time around will be up against a different kind of Democratic in Obama. A man who is very liberal and doesn't take shit from anyone. No apologies, no explanations. Kind of like Bill Clinton in that regard.

People have spoke about a Clinton/Obama ticket in 2008, but I'd prefer Obama at the top of the ticket ... I don't think he'll be old enough then unfortunately. I really admire Hillary Clinton but she will evoke more of the same rabid hatred that I'm just sick of.

Let me say here today that I will work my ass off for Obama when he runs for president. He is our shining star.

The original post was partly meant sarcastic as the party is in such disarray and only Obama seems to appeal to everyone in the party - and many outside of it as well.

His speech at the DNC was one of greatest I had ever seen. It was inclusive and bold. It reached out to everyone. He was the only one I've seen since Clinton that could invoke God, but in a way that didn't offend me as a nonbeliever. That too it was sincere. I think the party could learn some things from him as to how to talk about "values".

Realistically speaking, he won't be quite ready in '08. He would only have had four years. My worry isn't that his record will be too liberal or too conservative. As long as he is consistant in his votes, I think he'll make a good candidate some day (either '12 or beyond).

This is very interesting.

Right before the DNC, then Senate candidate Obama appeared on Meet the Press with everyone's favorite right-wing media whore Tim Russert.

Russert asked Obama several questions regarding the war in Iraq and from what I could tell, Mr. Obama gave a measured response.

And some here on DU went absolutely crazy, thread after thread was started about how he was just another pink-tutu wearing spineless Democratic sellout. Folks rushed to his website and sent him angry, sometimes incoherent emails and then posted them here for all to see.

Posters from the fine state of Ill, the people whom Mr. Obama would eventually be elected to serve, tried to calm everyone down by stating that he would be a great, progressive voice in the Senate and implored people to read more about him. Well, I did and ended up donating money to the gentleman's campaign. (I live in Georgia and can only dream of being represented by such a person)

But for a few hours on a Sunday afternoon, the only thing that mattered is that he didn't go on television and call W names.

Now that Barack Obama is a Senator and one of small and possibly getting smaller minority, he's going to have to work with others, including Republicans, (oh the horror) in order to accomplish anything. He's going to have to concentrate on moving the chains (getting first downs as opposed to the Hail Mary pass)

Based on what I've seen of him, I think he'll do just fine and the good people of Ill will be well served. But he'll probably say and perhaps do something that will irritate many on this board because he cannot be all things to all people.

I truly believe that he will run for and ultimately be elected to the Presidency. It will not be in 2008 or even 2012, but it will happen.

I'm proposing the we cut the guy some slack, see what he can accomplish, while remembering that while we all want him to represent us, he currently serves the good folks of Ill and it is to them that he must answer.

We have to be very careful not to make Obama the "Great Black Hope," putting pressure on him that no other incoming freshman Senator would have to endure.

Let's not make his job any harder than it is - give him some room to breathe (and to make mistakes).

Thanks for saying it so well.

....he must be a so-called "fiscal conservative" (meaning he wants to cut taxes and social services).

No thanks!

NEXT!

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Teaser wrote:
"Read the fucking news
before you fart out another opinion, please."

A rather insulting comment.

But I am not the only one who is suspcicious. The DLC has been touting Obama, too, naming him one of their 100 Rising Stars, or something like that. The Black Commentator magazine wrote an article speculating on whether Obama is a "Black Trojan Horse" who has sold out to the DLC, like Cory Booker did, who was another black candidate, who sold out to the DLC. Here is the article from the Commentator:
http://www.blackcommentator.com/45/45_dixon.html

Whenever you see the Corporate Media falling all over a candidate, put your hand on your wallet, because there is another "fiscal conservative" on the way.

Teaser wrote:
"Read the fucking news
before you fart out another opinion, please."

A rather insulting comment.

But I am not the only one who is suspcicious. The DLC has been touting Obama, too, naming him one of their 100 Rising Sars, or something like that. The Black Commentator magazine wrote an article speculating on whether Obama is a "Black Trojan Horse" who has sold out to the DLC, like Cory Booker did, who was another black candidate, who sold out to the DLC. Here is the article from the Commentator:
http://www.blackcommentator.com/45/45_dixon.html

Whenever you see the Corporate Media falling all over a candidate, put your hand on your wallet, because there is another "fiscal conservative" on the way.