I'm glad that I'm no Democrat.

This party is ineffective at best. I believe that all Dems who are progressives should drop out and join the Green Party. For those that do not know what principles the Green Pary stands for go to their site and read.

Power in numbers.

I'm not trying to be be rude to so called "defectors". Merely sarcastic.

Shoulda replied to the original, since that's who I was aiming at.

Hey! (shakes finger) go to bed.

Damn, I've got to figure out a way to get to bed at a decent hour, too. I can't keep this up for 4 more years.

Check out all of the local and state positions Greens now hold.

The Green Party is growing fast. If the Dems that are fed up with the
Moderate and Conservative Dems joined the Green Party it wouldn't be long before Natl. positions could be garnered. The Dems have been moving to the center for years ans now want to move even further to the the right.
This will gain them nothing.

WTF are you talking about?

No the GP will not replace the Democratic Party, and if they do the country will be even more screwed because the republicans will gain more than 60 senate seats. We will literally have permanent one party rule.

The Green Party does OK on a local level in a select few places (college towns and some cities). That means nothing though on the national level.

Dude, people like you've been saying that for years. And then you put Nader up as your candidate in 2000. He couldn't even qualify for matching funding and only got 2.5% of the vote. This year, your party was even less effective.

Here's the deal. You need to start at the grassroots of government, in the communities, the cities, and then the states. If you keep throwing candidates at the presidency, you will continue to marginalize your party with defeat after defeat.

What would be effective, however, is working WITHIN the Democratic party. I believe in most tenets of the Green Party and would support that within the frame work of the Democratic Party. That would give what you seek clout and the possibility of actually having your ideals part of a platform that can actually win the White House.

really rude...

Good luck in your endeavors.

different title.

contributed time and money too.

Then 2000 came along. I resigned the day after the "election".
The Green party and Nader are to blame for the last 4 years, and
IMHO, the next four as well. President Gore would have won
re-election.

I'll stick with the Democratic Party.

Blaming the Greens and Nadar for Gore's failures doesn't cut it.

The Dems are in disarray. They don't have a msg. and they pander to
the moderate Dems and Repub. lites. They have lost their way by trying to
appeal to those illusive "swing voters". When over 75% of the party was anti Iraq War the leadership ignored them and pandered to the right wing.
If a party cannot stand on principle then it is sinking in quicksand.

The President wrapped in the flag and all. A vote against Iraq being spun as a vote against America. Support the president! We were only just starting to wake up from our 9/11-induced stupor at that point.

When I think back on that time, I realize I was talking much like Kerry. Granted he probably should have known better than to give Prez. Bush one more chance, but foreign policy and counter terrorism are big issues with him (made even bigger by being in the vicinity of the 9/11 attacks, I reckon). He wanted to see something done about the dangers he'd preached about for so long (he'd warned about Saddam back in 1997 on the Senate floor, though apparently no one was listening). And so he allowed himself to be convinced.

I remember saying to myself at the time, "Alright fella. I'm awake now. I will accept Powell's word for a while (and I did, too). But you do NOT have a blank check dated 9/11. There damn well better be WMD's in there." As soon as the spin went from "WMD" to "Liberating the Iraqis from the tyrant" I was starting to get angry. Then I heard about the detainees, and found out that the touching picture of the Iraqis taking down the Saddam statue had been effectively staged. I was becoming more and more incensed.

Right in the middle of my awakening, during the primaries, I heard Clark say "No blank check for the war" and I immediately said "THAT'S MY GUY!" That seems like it was forever ago. So much has happened. It feels like we've lived an entire decade in 2 years.

They have as much chance of wielding real power in America as Pamela Anderson has of growing a dick...

I would have put it...

But true nevertheless.

Not in DU's best interests.

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