We need to Neutralize the Abortion issue! It's not a Religious..

... issue, and it's certainly not a Political issue! The problem is that no-one knows when a fetus becomes a "human". More importantly, it can't be proven in court. So, the Anti-Abortionist's are wasting money on a fight that can't be won!

I think that women should be allowed to make a choice, but I think that they should make an INFORMED choice! How many aborted fetuses would the Right to Life people have saved if they had spent as much money on informing expectant mothers as they did on Politicians. What about MORE "choices". If "Pro-Life" groups had spent as much money on placement services as they did on fruitless political campaigns, millions of abortions could have been avoided.

We should give women MORE choices, not fewer. We can do that. And, we can deflate one of the biggest wedge issues at the same time.

Of course, the Konservative Kristian Koalition will say that we're encouraging promiscuity. No, we're trying to provide a REALISTIC alternative to abortion.

THAT'LL GET 'EM!

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My own feelings on abortion aside, religious people will never be convinced that it's not a religious issue.

Can newbies just walk in the door and write main posts?

WHY??????????

if you are pregnant, your choices are:

1. terminate the pregnancy

2. continue the pregnancy


what other choices do you think there are?

You may wish it wasn't, but it is both.

When you say "more choices", what do you mean? The choices in an umwanted pregnancy are
1)Have an abortion
2)Continue the pregnancy
a)Keep the baby
b)Give it up for adoption
Everybody already knows about these choices. Do you have any others to suggest?

1. For religious people, everything is a religious issue. (I knew that, and I grew up atheist. Jeez.)

2. Everything is political.

Anyway, they're not the ones we need to reach. It's the moderates who can be swayed by values-based arguments, especially when Democrats don't offer a contrasting moral vision. You have to convince them that the right to abortion is part of a coherent value system that stands for more than "abortion on demand" (which to many people, sounds like "abortion as birth control").

If it were me, I'd start by arguing that decisions about abortion are too complex and personal for simple laws, something along the lines of the "between a woman, her doctor, and her God" bit Kerry used. Then I'd get tough, and start pointing out why absolutist positions taken by right-wingers do more harm than good.

First, some high-profile candidates need to stand up and say that abortion isn't just for bad girls. (Why? Because that's what the Republicans are thinking, and that's what they want everyone to think. It's easier to take rights away from women if you convince the public those rights are only used by irresponsible women.) Sometimes, wives need abortions. Sometimes, moms need abortions. Outlawing abortion doesn't punish wicked women; it punishes all women.

Second, I'd stop taking shit about late term abortions. No normal person chooses a late-term abortion casually; they choose late term abortions because they're in medical danger. If we let the right-wingers outlaw all late-term abortions, women will die. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm against laws that will cause women to die just because we've outlawed doctors treating them.

Third, I'd stand up for the judicial override of parental consent laws. If you don't give judges the power to override parents, you will eventually have some crazy parent (probably in Arizona) force a girl to give birth to her uncle's child. I think America should be anti-inbreeding, and if the Republican party considers the rights of incestuous child molesters more important than the victims, we should be making them explain why.

There are moral reasons to defend reproductive rights. (These were the creepy, jaw-dropping ones meant to stun people into thinking harder -- there are subtler ones, like the connections between unplanned pregnancies, high-school dropouts, and long-term poverty for women.) If Democrats want to protect reproductive rights in a values-voting America, they've got to stop acting apologetic for supporting the right to abortion, and start remembering that there are undeniable moral arguments to be made in favor of the right.

so poor women wouldn't have to worry about being pregnant with no insurance.

How about supporting a decent minimum wage, so a poor woman raising a kid wouldn't be such a joke in this society...

How about funding research into better, safer and more effective birth control..

Most people agree that preventing a pregnancy is best, and then the earlier it is terminated the better- so How about not getting in the way of RU-486 and Morning After Contraception, particularly in the case of the latter (along with birth control pills) being available OTC?

There are lots of "moral" things so-called conservatives could do if they were really interested in reducing the rates of surgical abortions any way other than outright criminalization.. but they don't, because what the agenda really is about is CONTROL. Which is why they won't stop at abortion--- next it will be all forms of birth control.

Just watch.