Damn that was quick -- Repubs eating their own

When the flying f did Michael Savage start making sense. What the hell. Mind fuck. MIND FUCK!

I'm surfing the AM radio, when I pause and here your friend and mine, ye ol' Savage. Only he's talking about the war, and not in a good way. Why aren't we going in force and leveling the place, he wonders. Where are the WMDs, he asks. Why do we suddenly give a damn about Iraqis being liberated, he rants.

And why haven't we noticed that when we put the Shiites in power, that radicalized the Sunnis. And that Iran is a nation full of Sunnis all angry and ready to join the fight. (something like that) He pondered whether we'd be foolish enough to waste our good men and woman on such a fight. "But don't listen to me," he said sarcastically, "I obviously don't know as much about the war as Washington."

He then talked about the pencil-necks in the Pentegon who messed up Vietnam by not listening to the ground generals to the pencin-necks in the Pentegon not listening to the ground generals in Iraq. He said that Iraq was being McNamara'd.

He says he's always been at least partly against the war. But dang, what the hell is the ultra conservative doing talking like this?

And in the corner of my mind, I though "if you felt this way about the current administration, why did you essentially vote for the guy with your show, you imbecile!"

My kingdom for Air America Radio! Are they still on The Sundance Channel, by chance?

Dissention in the ranks. I wonder if it will last. ?

When SOMEONE was in Vietnam getting shot at...


Mikey was too busy exchanging letters with Allen Ginsberg about a taboo subject...

Did Savage say that "Iran is full of Sunnis" or is that just your own mistake? If it's your own mistake, who cares; we all make mistakes and you're not claiming to be an expert.

But if Savage, who assumes an expertise about everything under the sun, doesn't know that Iran is a Shiite state, then he's really fucked.

That would be me. He was making the point that we'd made enemies of the one sect, and reinforcements were just across the border. I think he was trying to say that there is more going on in Iraq than the admin seems to realize, so that if they think this will be over soon, they are mistaken.

That's what I was getting out of it, but I obviously don't know a Sunni from a Shiite (and I don't either). I'm sure he said it the right way around. I just can't keep the two straight to save my life, is all.

Same way Irish Catholics and Protestants look the same. They ARE the same. They just think they're different.

and replace it with a Jewish garb, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference there either.

Eh, short term memory is always the first to go...

internet when I can't get them on my local radio station.

And in the corner of my mind, I though "if you felt this way about the current administration, why did you essentially vote for the guy with your show, you imbecile!"

These guys do not deviate from the RNC line -- ever. I read about a local guy here who was quite popular, but he was against the war from the start, and wouldn't pretend he was for it. In all other ways, as far as I can tell, he was a winger. They moved his show from the drivetime slot to the late evenings, then took him entirely off the air a couple of months before his contract expired, then let his contract expire without renewing it. He went from being one of their top draws to unemployed in a matter of months, all because he spoke his mind about the war.

They all know about that story, and all of them know what will happen to their fat paychecks if they do anything that might anger the wingers.

Why the hell didn't he say this BEFORE Nov. 2nd?

Pat Buchannen,Tucker Carlson, Bob Nofacts and others. True to their Rethug roots however, they closed ranks behind their candidate, because they will sell their souls for power. In a similar vain a number of them are now admitting the economy is a disaster. They are true patriots. It's just that their patriotism is to the Party and not to the USofA.

"Country before Party" was their motto before the election.

It was interesting watching them come at George through their own corporate leaning mind filter. One guy wrote a 10 page memo about strategies for winning the election and defeating Bush.

Another did a Trump turn and described why Bush should be fired. It was good to have their input, and anything they produced was taken down to Kerry HQ by me every chance I got.

Add Buckley to you list too. Repubs were slowly admitting a few things before the election.

In all seriousness, the republicans are more critical of the iraq war than democrats are!!! That says a lot about why democrats don't win.

Hate talk radio hosts base their whole existence on rage against the system. So now the system they wanted is in place and there's no one else to blame. They own it all -- all three branches of government -- and they can't point the finger at the Democrats and say it's THEIR fault.

I think this is the dawn of LEFTWING talk radio power!