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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:19 PM
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Security officials to spy on chat rooms
I found this article on ZDNET.com, I guess prugeing the CIA the neo-cons have in mind, it looks like they want to purge the US. They will begin researching this technology all thanks to two Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute researchers.

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5466140.html

"Yener and Krishnamoorthy, both associate professors of computer science, wrote that their research would involve writing a program for "silently listening" to an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel and "logging all the messages." One of the oldest and most popular methods for chatting online, IRC attracts hundreds of thousands of users every day."

"The Yener and Krishnamoorthy proposal says their research will begin Jan. 1, 2005 but does not say which IRC servers will be monitored."

"A June 2004 paper they published, also funded by the NSF, described a project that quietly monitored users of the popular Undernet network, which has about 144,000 users and 50,000 channels. In the paper, Yener and Krishnamoorthy predicted their work 'could aid (the) intelligence community to eavesdrop in chat rooms, profile chatters and identify hidden groups of chatters in a cost-effective way" and that their future research will focus on identifying 'topic-based information.'"

It looks like BIG BROTHER not wants to listen but also watch what we write.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:24 PM
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1. I bet they go after blogs in a year or two
They'll probably require an official FCC license of some type to run a blog. Take a guess who wont be getting a license.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:40 PM
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5. maybe even sooner ....sign...what is wrong with America?
Like we didn't know this was coming? You know the Bushites will be just as pissed when they lose the use of their technology the way they want to use it when it happens. DUH!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:24 PM
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2. Good, pay attention to #MP3_Metal on Undernet you fucks.
I have plenty of nice messages for them scrolling by every 10 minutes or so.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:28 PM
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3. This isn't really that new
We've lived with the illusion of anonymity on the Internet for a long time but police officials, the NSA, network admis, and bosses at work, etc...even bored AOL employees all had access to just about every key stroke we make.

Is it hard to get? sometimes. Does it take a bit of technical know-how? Yeah. But it's there and it only take a small bit of training.

The old concept of Privacy on the Internet did NOT come from the fact that no one was looking. It came from the belief that the Internet was so huge that the data would be too vast to sort thru. But processessing speed has begun to address that.

Now think about face recognition softward installed in cameras and placed all over in public places..esp places like Libraries (one of the few places you might think you could sit and post something truly anonymously)...and you have a real comforting vision of privacy in the future. I don't have the articles at hand, but I think the UK has been playing with that stuff for a while as well.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:31 PM
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4. lol
any hot ladies ctc?
brb...afk
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infusionman Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:44 PM
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6. Let them watch.
While they are reading our words of wit, we can out flank
them.
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fugue Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:09 PM
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7. I know Homeland Security is watching the mailing list of a friend
Well, his company's mailing list. They're a not-for-profit downtown renewal organization in Ohio. You know, help minorities start businesses, that kind of thing. There's no legitimate reason for HS to be on their mailing list, but they're there.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:15 PM
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8. Hi, Security officials!
:hi:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 07:50 PM
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11. "The DU Affair"
Oh great, I'm having a "Man from U.N.C.L.E." moment.

Hi spies. How's the hammer hangin'?
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:20 PM
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9. Haha...
...can we anticipate the government getting real mad at having to deal with scrolling spammers, page after page of asl checks, paster children, posers. That's damned funny. The reason the "Reality TV" shows "work" is that they make it look like the vast majority of a humans activity isn't mundane and unsightly. Does the government really want to WATCH us all take a shit? Who gets that job? Talk about growing the government...

I've got several gigs of polchat archives from several months before and after september 11th they'd find fascinating, i'm sure.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:39 PM
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10. I just wonder how the CIA plans...
to stop all White-hat, Grey-hat, Black-hat hackers, crackers, script kiddies and those who also enjoy cracking software. Not only that, you will have the techies at EFF coming up or partnering with encryption software companies. CIA will also have to put a halt to the P2P communities. That is impossible to do, it was tried with Napster and other P2P, but more and more pop-up.

The CIA will have to stop the software companies who are come up with more specialized anti-spyware. You will have mega-companies like Symantic and McAfee demanding the source code so they can protect minor government agencies, such as local and state government agencies.

Even if the CIA tried to control the source code it will be impossible, there will always be leaks. No matter how much BushCo and the neo-cons try to purge CIA employees who are disloyal to the President. There will always be your typical rouge employee who will play their game. They trained them to be master Spooks, who is to say they won't spy on BushCo. I recommend any DUer to check out the movie "The Spook Who Sat by the Door."

A very good movie about how a "spook" who enlisted in the CIA's elitist espionage program. After several years of learning the agency tactics, the rouge Spook drooped out and ended up training young Chicago African-American to be "Freedom Fighters." It is a story about one man's reaction to ruling-class hypocrisy.

I just think it is a no win situation for the CIA or BushCo on this front.
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