My Second Periodic (maybe daily) Comparison!

Today, the subject is equality and protection under the law!

THEIRS!

"It is true that if you are poor and can't afford a good lawyer, you're odds of going to prison skyrocket. But you know what? Tough!"
bill o'reilly, show of 9/4/01

OURS

"..."All men are created equal"-"government by consent of the governed"-"give me liberty or give me death". Well those are not just clever words, or those are not just empty theories. In their name Americans have fought and died for two centuries, and tonight around the world they stand there as guardians of our liberty, risking their lives.
"Those words are a promise to every citizen that he shall share in the dignity of man. This dignity cannot be found in man's possessions, it cannot be found in his power, or in his position. It really rests on his right to be treated equal in opportunity to all others. It says that he shall share in feedom, he shall choose his leaders, educate his children, and provide for his family according to his ability and his merits as a human being.
"To apply any other test-to deny a man his hopes because of his color or race, his religion or the place of his birth- is not only to do injustice, it is to deny America and to dishonor the dead who gave their lives for American freedom"
Lyndon B. Johnson, Special Message to Congress:
The American Promise, 3/15/65

statement will be lost on most repukes. Their credo is "Me first, oh and fuck you". Looking forward to more of these comparisons.(BTW change "you're" to "your" in the theirs statement)

My bad! :spank: to me (re: you're/your gaffe)! Thanx!

Your (;-) ) right about their credo, though!

BTW, I tried to do the correction, but the editing time has expired. I'll be more careful in future.

Pulling out a stale, obscure quote from the Leprichan and comparing it to LBJs stance on civil rights is more like a staw man than anything else...

...that these statements are obscure because the light is NOT shone on them. This is the kind of nonsense that his ilk are peddling to the masses all the time. I deliberately used coulter and o'reilly as my first 2 comparisons to start with a little bit of shock value. I started with Kennedy & Johnson for ours to symbolize that we, as Democrats do not have to "change our message" as rove, fox and others on the right have been adviing us since **'s "mandate". We already have the right message. We have to expose the other side for what they are.

The comparison of statements reflects the different stances on equality and justice of the 2 Americas.

the others...waddya think?
:D

I don't really know how to do links :think: , but until I learn, I WILL give the source.

The right wing quotes from yesterday and today were taken from Chap. 9 of Michael Moore's "Dude, Where's My Country?". I used his source to cite o'reilly's show today. I have every confidence in Moore's integrity, so I consider his notes to be accurate. That may piss righties off, but as we saw in the post F9/11 tantrums, they can't really disprove what he says, can they?

Tomorrow's quote, if I can find the threads in the archives, will be from right here on DU! :bounce:

As far as doing any more, I intend to do them quasi-daily, meaning that I may have to skip the occasional day because of work (I actually found a real job after 17 mos of under/un-employment) or family concerns.

Thanx for the Feedback,
Jack

is that this is a public safety and law enforcment issue.

When you coerce a plea agreement through either inadequate counsel or overcharging- when you alow a conviction based on a coerced confession or other tanted evidence- you greatly increase the odds not only that the wrong (and maybe totally innocent) person is put in prison or otherwise made to pay for something they didn't actually do.

BUT:

The real perpetrator in many cases remains free- still out there on the streets- ready and able to commmit more crimes.

Sometimes appearing "tough on crime" is actually just the opposite. It enables even more criminality.

Don't try to get a stupid person to understand that,though. It's beyond their primitive, simplistic way of thinking.

BTW, I rarely get into it with a hard rightie with a single digit I.Q. I just don't have the time or the breath to waste on them. My only exception is the blatently offensive lies that CANNOT be allowed to go unchallenged, like the swift boat liars for **.

What really amazes me, though, is that those self same righties continue to try to convert my wife and I! I guess that they can't comprehend Democratic Catholics with a sense of justice.

Thanks for responding,
Jack

"All men are created equal" - Written by Thomas Jefferson, who would be a Libertarian by today's political spectrum. Republicans nor Democrats can take credit for his words.

"government by consent of the governed" - The Constitution was written by some of the most conservative Americans of the day. John Adams? Hardcore conservative.

But yes, Bill is a bigot.

...I was claining LBJ as ours.

The rethuglicans ARE, however thumbing their nose at these concepts.

Thanks for the feedback,
Jack