ELECTION: This is part of the problem

Now here is the type of (father) person that voted for George W. Bush. These are the people that has the "moral values" under their armpits.. Now you know why we lost the 2004 Presidental election.


NEWARK, N.J. — A father's attempt to teach his daughter a lesson about drinking backfired when the teen led police to a stash of drugs and weapons inside their home.

Kevin Winston, 46, called police at 2:45 a.m. Friday after his 16-year-old daughter came home drunk and unruly. When police arrived, however, the girl told them she feared for her safety because her father stored drugs and weapons in the home.

The girl led officers to a crawl space above the ceiling where they found four semiautomatic guns and more than 600 vials of cocaine.

Winston was charged with numerous weapons and drug charges. His five daughters were placed in the custody of a relative.

"He called us on her and ended up getting locked up himself," said Newark Police Director Anthony Ambrose.

our country is in the hands of the "moral values" crowd. I know so many people like this. I guess he thinks he is rightous because he hasn't been caught doing anything unrighteous, until now.

I had a conversation w/ my repub. uncle this Thanksgiving that turned on a similiar lightbulb for me!

This is the second time I've heard that, about his probably being the kind of guy who voted for Bush...and while that may be true, being familiar with Newark, I don't think this particular guy voted at all, much less for Bush.

insulated by power and privilege from any accountability.
P.S. We didn't lose the 2004 election. The "moral" people stole it from under us.
Also, the "Moral values" BS was extracted from exit polls. Those exit polls saying they lost, we won.

. . . George W Bush? Did he even vote? This really sounds more like a dysfunctional family situation than a political preference example. The 46 year old father needs help perhaps addiction treatment. The five girls probably need a lot of counseling. It says nothing about the mother. Reading only this much of the story (no link) I for one would believe that fate intervened here before the situation became a real disaster and maybe it already was a disaster, I have no idea. Don't be so eager to apply convenient labels to situations without knowing the rest of the facts, that is a republican tactic.

why we lost the 2004 Presidental election".

You don't listen, do you... *You* may have lost the election, surreal democrat, but most of the people here, didn't. What is it about the word, "landslide" you don't understand.

I tried to paint a picture of how the election was won by the "republican" with moral values. But I failed to put it in a "frame" for some to understand.

Now the frame--- The message implied the people that belived in one type of moral values, let themselves be how "righteous" it is to be of another..

I'm trying to lay this out, so it will make you think.. think. think..

who need to think, think, think, s.d. No, on second thoughts, it's the quality of your thinking, rather than its incidence you need to address.

All these fears concerning the constituency reached by the Republicans altogether ceased to be relevant in this election, because the neocons were deserted "en masse", while Kerry/Edwards proved to be a magnet for enormous numbers of people who didn't normally vote in any kind of substnatial numbers, and even sensible Republicans. Just meditate on the word, "Democrat landslide", and you'll find the only relevant frame.

The only morality considered relevant by the electorate was the morality of more or less full employment, appropriate remuneration for their work, a staunching of the haemorrhaging of the nation's wealth in unwinnable foreign wars, and better domestic protection, i.e. of the homeland. Even the level of economic justice under Bill Clinton, with all the difficulties he faced, would have more than ensured another Dem victory in 2000, had it been fair - even more so after the fulfilment, indeed exceeding, of The Onion's satirical prophecies by the time this election took place.

The meme about the neocons providing better protection, was not only not borne out by the facts, but was the palpable creation of the mainstream media. In any event, most people could see through it, and it never figured as the priority the propagandists claimed. What's the good of homeland protection, if you have no work, at best uncertain medical protection for most, social security under threat of privatisation, increasing taxation to fund military expenditure, ec., etc., etc? Only the neocons fail to construe economic justice as the primary meaning of morality in the Christian Gospels. "Where your treasure is, there your heart is". This is not our permanent home, but a place of pilgrimage.

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