Can we put health insurance on the ballot?

spotbird

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:31 PM
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Can we put health insurance on the ballot?

Not necessarily a requirement that employers provide it, but alternative ideas like a state tax credit to employers. Or even a state insurance policy available to everyone at an affordable price, with funding included in the initiative? Work hard to avoid attacks that it is socialistic by requiring real premiums, with tax support for the high risk patients.

Make this a Democratic position, sort of the flip to the hate amendments.

Why can't this be done?

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xultar

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:33 PM
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1. Better not, the dumb asses will vote against it and end it for the few who

happen to have health insurance.

I think we should put sex on the ballot. Yes we can have it and No we can't. Let's see how they vote. That'll fix the fuckers

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imenja

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:35 PM
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2. great idea!

I think it can be done, but you'll need to write the amendment carefully. Consult local politicians and lawyers in your state. You'll have to prepare for opposition from insurance companies.
I agree that we start using the amendment process for progressive ends, just as the right as done to advance their agenda.
FL passed a raise in the minimum wage this year, by more than 70%.

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Padraig18

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:36 PM
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3. You can, in some states.

There is no provision in the Constitution for national referendums, however.

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illflem

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:36 PM
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4. Sure, it can be done on a state level

it's called an initiative
Never heard of an initiative on a fed level though

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proud2BlibKansan

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:37 PM
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5. I am not willing to put anything on a ballot

until we fix the fucked up voting system we have now.

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imenja

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:37 PM
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6. another point

Virtually all amendments on the ballot pass in FL. I think people have a tendency to vote yes to nearly everything. So however it's worded, make sure the response you want is yes.

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lcordero

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Sun Nov-28-04 06:48 PM
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7. I'll vote against health "insurance" without so much

as a reservation.

I'll vote for healthcare but I will not vote for health "insurance".

Health "insurance" rewards crooks.

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imenja

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Mon Nov-29-04 03:44 PM
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9. good point on language

The language used to describe such provisions is essential. The Republicans were able to make their abolition of the estate tax a viable issue by simply calling it a "death tax." We Democrats need to pay careful attention to language.

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Lydia Leftcoast

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Sun Nov-28-04 07:04 PM
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8. It was attempted in Oregon, but the insurance industry massively

funded the opposition and filled the airwaves with scare stories about people flocking to Oregon for "mooch" off "taxpayer-funded" medical care.

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