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baltodemvet Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:56 AM
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Yellow Ribbons are cheap
"Our men and women in uniform deserve better than empty words and magnetic yellow ribbons slapped ostentatiously on SUVs."


http://www.ospolitics.org/blog/archives/2004/11/28/121927.php
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:01 AM
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1. The ribbons should be black and red

to truly represent THIS war.

Black for the oil, red for the blood.
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MNBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:06 AM
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2. Get a yellow ribbon
It reminds people we have troops in harms way.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:27 AM
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4. if a person needs a yellow ribbon to remind them of that...
... that asshead is a write-off anyway. Doubly so, if that person loves to say "support the troops" then dodges taxes and lives a lifestyle that prompts blood for oil wars in the first place

Cheap, hollow symbolism is the most dangerous - and that's what the yellow ribbon jingoism represents.

Welcome to DU :hi: - unless you are a troll - in which case: piss off :argh:
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MNBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:13 PM
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19. It's too easy to forget we're in a war. and FU
If you don't tow the line you are called a troll...That's B.S.....My point is; It's too easy for most of America to forget we are involved in a war...If you don't want to get one that's fine...Let the Repubs have all the ribbons...But don't call me a Repub because I have one...
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:58 PM
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20. not about toeing the line - about 22 posts - and FU back
:-)
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MNBiker Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 04:42 PM
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23. Now we are even
I don't post much. I'm a reader not a writer...It will take me 10 years to get to 1000 posts...
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:36 AM
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5. They should wear them around their necks
to remind people that they were gung-ho for this wanton misuse of our military.

Support the troops? Keep them home until a real threat to our national security arises. And don't force Mom to hold bake sales to buy equipment that should've been issued to them before the bullets and bombs started flying.

Yellow ribbons, bah. Just a cheap, showy salve for abdication of responsibility.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:11 AM
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10. a yellow ribbon is a lame-ass excuse for people to feel like they're
supporting troops; when in reality they're supporting some stupid company that makes yellow ribbons. want to support the troops? fine, spend your yellow ribbon money on something that the troops would need, and mail that over to them. yellow ribbons remind me of that verse in the bible that talks about not being like the people who go to the marketplace to pray so that they can be seen, but rather to pray in private b/c it is the right thing to do.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:23 AM
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11. Would you say that to the families....
....of soldiers overseas that use the ribbons to honor their children's sacrifice? How do you feel about families that hung stars in the window during WWII, one for each family member in the war.

I'm not saying the people you describe don't exist, but we seem to be painting everyone with one broad brush in this thread.
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StopTheMorans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:28 AM
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13. i have family (a cousin) overseas, and both my mother and my aunts
have those things up (my mom is a dem, and hers is right below her Kerry/Edwards sticker). some people do put them up with good intentions, but by and large they are bought by repukes who are only looking to further the agenda of the right in a snide and underhanded way (i.e. that way they don't have to say "I support the war and *", the yellow ribbon carries that assumption). there are many better ways to support the troops. how about a sticker that says "I support the troops, but not our president" or "I received this sticker for sending $100 to our troops"? those are both dumb ideas (i.e. neither is a great slogan), but you get my point. yellow ribbons are a tool of the right-wing...
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:54 AM
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16. You know, maybe people would actually stop and think some time if they
didn't have the stupid props of yellow ribbons and little flags to wave.

WHY are our troops in harms way. Because our "President" LIED to get us into an illegal war. No more stupid yellow ribbons. Get out and demand an end to this genocide in Iraq.
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:18 AM
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18. If you need to be reminded
Just go stand in line at the nearest Veterans hospital it only takes about 6 to 12 months to get to the front. While in this line the disabled Vet truly appreciates some ass hole proving his patriotism and support with a stupid wally world stick on ribbon, a made in china flag, and a Bush bumper sticker.
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:14 AM
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3. I agree, the ribbon is a cheap way to support the troops
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 07:15 AM by KingChicken
A lot of people would hate me for how I support the troops: Participation in the Anti-War movement

The troops have all the support they need to fight a war, what they don't have is enough people trying to bring them back home. I want to see them return from this bloody and dishonorable conflict, it's not their fault.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:50 AM
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6. Careful now.......
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 07:51 AM by blue sky at night
your treading on sacred ground. Wouldn't want to make us liberals look bad because we feel cheap p.o.s. yellow ribbons made in China sold at Wal-fricking-Mart actually mean something.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:55 AM
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7. My, we're being mighty presumptuous in this thread.
Many I know that wear or display yellow ribbons have kids in Iraq right now. I surely don't begrudge them a way to feel more attached to their children in harm's way. It surely isn't their fault that the administration has put them in such a horrible situation.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:07 AM
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8. You see anyone faulting them?
Like the rest of us, you also know plenty of bandwagoneers: "We've got yer back -- we got RIBBONS!"

Clearly, it's those shameful clots we're talking about.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:09 AM
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9. Sure those people exist....
in droves. But, why would you automatically associate yellow ribbons with mindless dolt? That's the only sentiment I have seen on the thread so far. I just wanted to point out an alternative that might sometimes be the case.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:25 AM
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12. Because gazillions of mindless dolts
are sporting them. That's who we are talking about. It needn't be said that we aren't denigrating people who have family in that hellhole. If you need the reassurance of hard data, take a survey, see who's ragging on the families of soldiers.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:42 AM
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15. Well, you said in another post....
Edited on Tue Nov-30-04 08:42 AM by tx_dem41
"Yellow ribbons, bah. Just a cheap, showy salve for abdication of responsibility."

Maybe, I am being too nit-picky and just need my first cup of coffee, but I just see way too broad of a brush used in that statement.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:03 AM
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17. Well, I'd say
that what I wrote preceding that makes it clear I was referring to the jingoists who stampeded for war and haven't been the least bit concerned about their welfare since.

In any case, you and I don't have a difference in this matter. Of course, those who stand to lose their kids shouldn't be disturbed by anyone for their expressions of hope, solidarity, faith, or grief over the horrible situation they've been thrust into.

And the rest of the asshats who leech off their sorrow for their own self-aggrandizement can go fuck themselves. Twice.

Go have that coffee. I'm cracking my second beer (No, I'm not a morning lush, it's 11pm over here) :)
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:36 AM
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14. I agree
Some yellow ribbons are displayed by those with peeps in Iraq.

I'm also inclined to believe this is true when the ribbon is attached to something other than an SUV.

Over the weekend, I was an anti * car driving through MO. Can't think of a better State to test this theory in, and it was slightly unnerving.

The suspect SUVs are the ones with multiple ribbons....and what's up with the SUV thing anyway? Another way to convince your delusional mind, "I am right, I am right"? I'm willing to bet they also had a gun in there.

On a side note...Bush/Cheney signs everywhere along the freeway (one just across from the "Discount Bible Outlet Store". :crazy:
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dawn_fayhe Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:17 PM
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21. somewhat
I somewhat agree with you, but it is still a nice gesture.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:22 PM
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22. The yellow ribons which seem to be at home
all to common on monster SUVs are for the most part symbolic ways of patting yourself on the back as a good patriot.

What to know whats even better... here in KC all the fucking GO CHIEFS! gold and red ribbons right next to the yellow support the troops ribbon.. LAME!
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