Gay Marriage

Eleven states banned gay marriage, and most even prohibited civil unions. Is this bigotry? Will gays be the first to go to concentration camps? I respect those who don’t believe gays should be married simply because of what marriage has been for such a long time (One man, one woman). But those who oppose even civil unions are not motivated by a desire to defend marriage, but out of a deep hatred for gays. As it is now, a person can be dying in a hospital bed and their loved ones are not allowed to come in to their room and say good-bye. Have we become such a hateful and bigoted nation that most of our citizens are not bothered by this?

It is bigotry. Excluding a certain group from doing something that everyone else can do is hatred and bigotry. This really pisses me off but I have no idea what to do about it.

do what their commander-in-chief has ordered. He thinks civil unions are okay, just not gay marriage. That always gets the bigots in an uproar. They say that bush was just trying to win the presidency, but hey at least they know where he stands. Give me a break.

Some will be successful - some not. The main thing is to keep up the pressure and show the fundies that discrimination is wrong. I urge everyone that have sufficient income to donate to supportive causes (ACLU, Lambda Legal, Pflag, National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, GenderPAC, + many others - including state group fighting these amendments).

"I respect those who don’t believe gays should be married simply because of what marriage has been for such a long time (One man, one woman)."

They said the same thing when women tried to get the vote, that voting was always only and always for men. Can you respect those who believe the traditional definition of voting rights must be based on sex?

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history classes- I know I learned all of this, but given the current negative mindset toward gay rights it appears that many Americans need a refresher course.

...if they support civil unions

If you wanna say marriage is religious, thats great--then can divorce and stop the government from issuing marriage licenses.

But, when the government gives rights and benefits based on this institution, and refuses to let 2 consenting, non-blood related adults enter into it, it is bigotry.

If you are talking about people personally (those ONE man, ONE women types), doesn't the story of Jacob, Rachel and Leah teach us anything? MARRIAGE IS BS. The women's father tricked their suitor to marrying both of them. Wheres the "Sacred Union" in that? This is in Genesis, by the way. It is a huge thing that none talks about when they claim the sanctity of biblical marriage.

And they are motivated by bigotry-- why can't two people be allowed to spend their life together just because they don't reproduce? I don't here fundies up and arms about a married couple choosing not to have kids. Or how about those who cannot physically bear children getting married? Wheres the outrage over their marriage?

Its bigotry plain and simple.

I think gays should be allowed to get married, but I also respect John Kerry who believes gays should have civil unions instead. I don't think John Kerry is a bigot. It's those who oppose even civil unions who have no leg to stand on but bigotry.

He panders where he needs to and he pandered with that stance, to the right, unfortunately.

If you believe in the "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness," then you believe every institution is open to everyone. There is no "separate but equal." Its all or nothing. either we all are equal or we all aren't. I'm sick of nuancing it.

...that's it, right there, the whole point.

You legally cannot give straights something called "marriage" and gays something called "civil unions".

This is such a basic tenant.

Either everyone gets marriage or eveyone gets civil unions.

They won't send gays to camps first, they'll round up arab-americans who are US citizens first. Then they'll come for the gays. If they get away with that, they'll come for everyone else they think are the enemy.

Theanks for posting that pic! Im new here!! :)

Yes, it is bigotry at its finest! :(

cause, they ain't getting nothing but GRIEF for their efforts!

...the label says made in USA.

the whole POINT in carrying that shirt line is to offer an American-made product...

except...oh, i see what you mean.

Most of our consumer goods are made in China. I doubt very much that he was trying to belittle or offend you. IMHO

since I am making the effort to market a USA product AND letting people know it is a USA product. :shrug:

" This is one thing, that's made in the USA."


Really..Made in the USA!

100% American....Honest!

Made and manufactured right here folks!


American ideals...American labor.

Home grown shirt!

than you wouldn't be able to SEE THE SHIRT! ;-)

I will also point out that liberal rabbis will not hesitate to marry same sex couples were they not prevented by laws based on the Christian faith.