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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:22 AM
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This is what a mandate looks like.
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 03:24 AM by Paul Hood





http://www.presidentelect.org/e1936.html

Edit just to say that in the good old days we were red.







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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:24 AM
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1. I could not agree more
51% is hardly a mandate
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:24 AM
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2. Could be the same if you looked at 1984 too
Didn't Mondale just win Minnesota & DC? Just saying...
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:29 AM
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3. Here it is.

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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:11 AM
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9. The crazy thing about both these is if you look at how much of the
electorate actually voted and of that the popular vote, even in these cases its hard to talk about a "landslide" or a mandate. The electoral college makes a small difference look like a big difference w/ winner take all.
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Patriot Acts Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:15 AM
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11. This version looks much better
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:21 PM
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25. Why did the color change?
If you look at the two maps, you'll see that the colors are switched, this happened sometimes during the eighties.
Today the Republican color is red, like in revolution - very fitting for the un-conservative conservatives.

How did the change come about?
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:34 AM
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4. This is a pretty cool site apart from * being on the front .
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:44 AM
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6. Great site... I wished the COLORS weren't reversed.
All the REDS and BLUES are backwards!
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:58 AM
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7. I wonder why we got blue.
Has anyone asked the networks. I've always thought we should have the red.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:33 AM
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15. I'm glad we got blue
because the wingnuts would harp on us having red, since being 'red' is another term for 'commie'. It would be just one more thing they would slander us with. :argh:
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:10 AM
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16. I guess that's why I wanted red.
I think somewhere along the line it symbolized the blood that was spilled fighting for fairness and equality. If the wingnuts are against these things so be it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red

In maps of political parties, red is traditionally used for the following parties:
Australia: Labor
Canada: Liberal Party of Canada
Germany: Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands (Social Democratic party of Germany) and Partei des Demokratischen Sozialismus (Party of Democratic Socialism)
The Netherlands: Partij van de Arbeid (Socialist party)
United Kingdom: Labour Party
United States: Republican Party

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:41 AM
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5. Then again, so was this:


But then again, as bad as old Red-Ink Reagan was, I'd take him over Bush in a heartbeat.
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:03 AM
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8. Hey you can't post the same one twice
Just to make up for 1984 I think there needs to be another map showing a real Mandate.



;)
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:15 AM
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12. They also have the
popular vote, FDR and LBJ both hit 60.6 (as well as being so well known you could refer to them by their initials), Nixon seems to be the only Republican to break 60%, (in '72) and we saw how well that went.
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:05 AM
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13. Not to mention
Bush claims this is a mandate and that he has "earned political capital" that he intends to spend. But *screech* lets not forget that after LBJ's real mandate he decided to step into another war to "protect America's security" -- and after that we know what happened. I don't think Bush is as humble as LBJ, nor does his crew recognize anything they can't destroy. But one of the reasons Nixon won was because of his promise of a "secret plan" to end the war. Unfortunately Iraq is going to get worse for everyone (except bin Laden who will use this as political capital for his extremism and Hailburton who will make $$$ of it). And since the Republicans have a desire to control everything they will only have themselves to blame -- no matter how hard they try to blame this inevitable failure on everyone else. Iraq can be salvaged, but they're too blind to change their ways and do just that.
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Paul Hood Donating Member (717 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:29 AM
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14. You know I have no
problem with Bush claiming he has a mandate. I have a problem with the press not laughing right in his face. The only thing he ran on was attacking Kerry. He didn't run on anything he will try to do because he knows poisoning the air and water wouldn't be really popular.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:46 AM
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21. Precisely--I heard Leslie Blitzed talking about it on CNN
about an hour and a half after the polls closed on the LEFT coast.

Where the F did that come from?
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:13 PM
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22. no argument with the media
But really though this isn't surprising. They are pretty lame, and I do have a problem with Bush claiming it. The reason why is because the media is so lame -- but the Democrats need to insist that the country is still largely divided. If they don't then....sigh.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:44 AM
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20. Welcome to DU!
:toast:
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V. Kid Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:14 PM
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23. thanks
Thanks -- Cheers.
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 04:14 AM
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10. Mandate for "none of the above"
If you count non-voters as those dissatisfied with the choices, none of the above wins every time - even in 2004.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:38 AM
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17. The problem with non-voters is that they don't vote
Who knows if they don't like the choices or not? Maybe they had something better to do than vote that day. At any rate, if they don't vote, they don't count.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:40 AM
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18. This one scared me for life - Sorry I have to post it.


But then Watergate exploded.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:42 AM
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19. Perfect, thank you!
That should be a bumber sticker!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 06:18 PM
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24. Even Roosevelt overplayed his hand after 1936.
The public wasn't as supportive as it appeared in the 1936 election and Democrats suffered heavy losses in the 1938 midterms.
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