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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:33 PM Original message |
If Dems are smarter, why do Republicans keep beating the crap out of us? |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. We think Americans are deep thinking, rational people. |
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jrthin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. And there lies the |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 11:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
82. "most Americans are simpletons and dolts" |
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jrthin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 02:50 PM Response to Reply #82 |
110. Disagree all you want, |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #110 |
125. who elected them? A minority, that's who |
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jrthin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #125 |
126. You are making my point. |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. maybe they don't like "democracy"? |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 11:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
84. THEY'RE IDIOTS - WE SHOULDN'T TALK OVER THEIR HEADS. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 05:10 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. welcome to du, formerrushfan! |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. wow. powerful post. |
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MissBrooks (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
107. Tell us MORE |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. I never worked for Rush but... |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. A big, fat WELCOME to DU! |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Spell Check. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I meant no offence on the Deist question |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. If voters are so smart then why do they vote for idiots and scoundrels? |
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podnoi (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
102. NARCISSISM!!!!!! We have huge problems with it! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
121. Sort of like the posters who during the election period said that |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think that about says it... Dems tend to take the high road |
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msgadget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
117. Maybe they know the other side has no bottom |
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48pan (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. I Think We Underestimate... |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. They may be shrewd but that doesn't make them smart |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. This very well could be. They seem to be one step ahead of us... |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. Republicans keep beating the crap out of Dems because... |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. People on DU keep getting tombstoned because of crap like yours |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I didn't want to see Bush in office any more than you... |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
38. This is a message board for liberals. We say stuff here that we never say |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 01:37 AM Response to Reply #38 |
86. Dodn't you think that |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Guess what boopie... |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. I hope all the residents of Dumbfuckingstan secede ........ |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
73. Well Unless your in the defense industry |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 09:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
97. people all over the WORLD say that people b*sh voters are stupid! |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Actually, I was trying to take a witticism and see if it measured up... |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Debunked. |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Thanks. That's important to know. |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 02:02 AM Response to Reply #19 |
88. "Republicans lack..." the very morals and values they pretend |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. How does voting for extremists like the chimp make one "moderate"? |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That's just the thing |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I disagree |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. This is where we disagree... |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. and you say this, why? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Bush is TRASHING AMERICA |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Deleted message |
xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I like Pizza!! |
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InvisibleBallots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
101. to answer your question about John Galt |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. PIPA conducted a study on Bush supporters... |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Ailsagirl! Thanks for posting that PIPA link!! |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I'll have to look into this. Cognitive dissonance changed my life. |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:15 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. It helped me (a bit) to understand the mindset |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. The thing is, I think my family knows these things... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Maybe they are not ignorant AND stupid.... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. And the ones.. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
75. So, they voted for the chimp because they |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
99. actually, the "Communist Party" that endorsed Kerry |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. Excuse me, but this is pretty darn close to an ad hominem attack. |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. Have you talked to any of these people? |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. Some of the people I know who voted for * are very smart, |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Ladyhawk, while I agree with the ignorance part, I'm |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. MSM? |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. Mainstream, aka corporate, media. n/t |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. I consider that stupid |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:06 AM Response to Reply #71 |
122. Yes, the truth IS out there, and |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. ironic, isn't it? |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Kerry WON moderates and centrists, first of all... |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Answers |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Ted Rall is not as bad as Coulter. You must have blinders on |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Coulter's a fucking idiot, don't get me wrong. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. do you remember the context of ted's comment? |
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xerenthar (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. He said that about Tillman, not the Ghraib jackasses. |
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sonicx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You are mistaken. |
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Debs (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Ted Rall |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
78. In my experience, they call us far worse. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
77. How frequent are Ted Rall's TV appearances |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 11:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
83. Read this, then maybe you'll reconsider |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. 2 coups? Intelligence is not a factor (except maybe in recognizing the |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. Because we're so easy to divide and turn against each other. |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. We do seem to fight an awfully lot, especially since November 2. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's not a question of intelligence |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. they have Satan and ALL his Minions on their side....... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. actually they have found out how to use Apriori logic as a weapon of mass |
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48pan (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. That presumes the existance of God... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Your comment is a perfect example of Apriori logic..that was really a good |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
18. republicans don't have consciences or morals |
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dave123williams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
20. Because they're bullies at the core? Just a thought. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
21. the short answer is that . . . |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Yeah. It seems like we're forever REACTING to something unthinkable... |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
30. If Dems are smarter, why do Republicans keep beating the crap out of us? |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. Repubs play to win |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. complex... but here is a theory |
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sword (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. Tough for small factions seemingly united to win. |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
45. Note to xerenthar: |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
47. We ought to go back to the days of FDR, and listen to the |
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Kitsune (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
111. ...as drunken, yelling, body-painted Sports crowds attest! |
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Debs (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
66. Two Reasons |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
67. Dems are so confident they're right they think they don't have to work... |
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Lexingtonian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
68. Transitional times |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
112. They DO have a 'greater structural advantage.' They're control freaks. |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
69. First of all, our election infrastructure is controlled by the g.o.p.... |
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Piperay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
72. Lying, stealing and being |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
74. I think the Republican leadership is smarter |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
79. For any smart Republicans, it only proves one thing |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
80. If you owned the corporate media and 30% of voting in US... |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
81. Very destructive minds. |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
85. The Democratic leadership severely overestimates the American electorate |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
87. Even if we could (wrap our minds around)... |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
89. PR - we are seen as the wackos and 'fundamentalists' of the left |
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Oddly Stevenson (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
91. The immovable object |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 08:16 AM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I think you're right, but I can't figure out why it's true. |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
93. Perhaps it's because of this: |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
94. Because republicans are prepared to do whatever it takes |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
95. Republican success story: based on greed, ignorance and ideology |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
96. The Pubs take LIE CHEAT STEAL DENY DESTORT DIVERT to new Heights |
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coreystone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
98. An Independent Who Voted Straight Democratic Ticket on 11/02/04 |
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coreystone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Also, a very big problem with civics classes and the MSM!! |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
103. because "smarter" is a handicap |
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eg101 (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
105. gop has social and economic rightism. Dems has only social leftism |
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hinachan (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
106. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
108. Why Do Republicans Win? It's Not That Hard |
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VioletLake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. I don't think that we should promote hatred though. |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. I Know, But We Do Have To Cross Some Lines To Get Our Government Back |
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VioletLake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. I appreciate your commitment... |
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IwinULose (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
116. Some of them are smart... |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
120. Lots of stupid people in the country and black box voting machines. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 05:54 AM Response to Original message |
123. Smart people are outnumbered by willfully ignorant ones |
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Bush_Eats_Beef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
124. Here's the formula: |
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VioletLake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. I appreciate your commitment too, B_E_B. :) |
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Bush_Eats_Beef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. You're right, it's extremely overwhelming |
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VioletLake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. If you can agree that we've identified the problem, |
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